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    • burnout426
      burnout426 Volunteer @burnout426 last edited by

      @burnout426 said in How to remove other search engines?:

      @sadscribbler Those entries were put there by Opera. They're not malware.

      From Opera Security Team: https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/comments/17i3mng/comment/k7ia1wp/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

      Hi. Thanks for bringing this to our attention - we had the team investigate this and yes, this was a safe implementation. However, it has now been discontinued and Bing results should be showing up normally now.

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      • hucker
        hucker @burnout426 last edited by hucker

        @burnout426 So they decided to stop receiving dirty money!

        Opera could probably collect more more from M$ themselves. Bing is the most advert ridden piece of crap I've ever seen. Finding an actual result is almost impossible.

        So we still have the original problem, searches beginning with a letter use a non-default search engine. I can't think of a single person who uses more than one search engine. This feature is ridiculous.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by leocg

          I really want to trust Opera as a company, and I'm aware that they somehow have to make money - but incidents like this make it very hard to believe they are playing fair with users like us.
          I wonder why the security team has to find, what has been implemented by whosoever.
          As I said, I'm not using Bing Search - if I did, I'd rather use Edge anyway - and so I'm not concerned by this. But I'm concerned in just another way: How confident can I be that Opera doesn't do some shady things without getting user consent?
          I really like the browser itself and I'm using its features heavily. I'm not that worried about the Chinese investors generally, but it's the small and quickly overseen things that matter, too. I'm not looking for total security or privacy. I wouldn't use Opera then anyway. But when they proclaim user security and privacy, they shouldn't do things like this.

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          • hucker
            hucker @Guest last edited by

            What amuses me is Opera blocks other people's ads, then puts in their own. Is this some kind of ad war?

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            • A Former User
              A Former User @hucker last edited by

              @hucker That‘s what Brave does by design, as well. All these smaller browser projects are in need to monetize, whereas Apple, Google and MS just have other revenues to get their browsers going.
              Opera is the biggest alternative browser maker next to Mozilla by far, but people consider them as still „tiny“ next to the big tech giants. So they have to find ways to find to capatilize in a way that’s accebtable somehow.

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              • hucker
                hucker @Guest last edited by hucker

                @celticcross Real cash might help. There are programs (even little utilities like Startallback) which are free, but ask for donations. Admittedly Startallback nags each startup, but it doesn't limit usage. I think uTorrent has a banner asking to donate. All you get without donating is a banner.

                I don't pay for either, but I know many people do.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User @hucker last edited by

                  @hucker When I used Opera back in the day, they were adware, showing ads in a window. I even paid for it to get rid of it, later.
                  But I don't think that's the way it works nowadays, at least not for a browser. There are so many browsers out there that come for free, that people just use them.
                  AFAIK Vivaldi which is even tinier than Opera by a large degree offers the possibility to donate, still no way to purchase, as they are totally free.
                  I think that most people wouldn't pay for a browser anyways. And won't pay even for an extra service as VPN etc. So mostly even alternative browsers are still funded by Google in a way like Firefox or Opera by setting Google as the default search engine.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @hucker last edited by

                    @hucker Opera allows users, if they want, to block ads on webpages, including the ones from Opera.

                    And since it stopped being a paid software, Opera uses ads to get part of their revenue.

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                    • hucker
                      hucker @leocg last edited by

                      @leocg said in How to remove other search engines?:

                      @hucker Opera allows users, if they want, to block ads on webpages, including the ones from Opera.

                      I was referring to the "ads" from that redirected search engine.

                      And since it stopped being a paid software, Opera uses ads to get part of their revenue.

                      I wasn't aware it ever was, I've used it from the start for free.

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                      • hucker
                        hucker @Guest last edited by

                        @celticcross said in How to remove other search engines?:

                        I think that most people wouldn't pay for a browser anyways. And won't pay even for an extra service as VPN etc. So mostly even alternative browsers are still funded by Google in a way like Firefox or Opera by setting Google as the default search engine.

                        I disagree. I pay for a VPN, because I can't find a decent free one. Many people pay for a small utility Startallback, just to correct the nonsense in the start menu. A browser should attract more money than a simple utility (which also has the free alternative openshell).

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