Will Opera 12 continue to be updated?
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christoph142 last edited by
I've been using opera browser for a long time, and now remain loyal to it.
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stng last edited by
Keep in mind, that EVERY security fix after 12.14 had brings more problems than actual fixes.
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jito463 last edited by
Can you provide a link (or a reference of some kind) to the problems in 12.16 stemming from the updates? I'm curious to see what you mean. I haven't noticed any issues myself with 12.16, but obviously I wouldn't if it's a security exploit, rather than a bug.
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blackbird71 last edited byCan you provide a link (or a reference of some kind) to the problems in 12.16 stemming from the updates? I'm curious to see what you mean. I haven't noticed any issues myself with 12.16, but obviously I wouldn't if it's a security exploit, rather than a bug.
The problems were scattered through various threads in the old My Opera forums, and they were instability or memory-leak kinds of issues that certain users experienced. Some could be confirmed by some (but not all) other users, some never could be. They were not security-related. Sometimes the problems were site-specific, but not always. At the time, I helped in a few of the threads to try to aid trouble-shooting, but nothing clearly causal ever appeared, apart from version number - that is, 12.14 would work, 12.15/16 would cause the user problems to appear.
The 12.15 development work occurred during/just-after the time-frame of the Opera Presto personnel redirection/displacement upheaval, and some folks speculated that Opera's best Presto developers might not have been fully engaged in the update, so that it wasn't as well crafted or debugged. Again, that's only speculation, and I have no knowledge of its accuracy. In any case, whatever code was issued in 12.15 appeared as well in 12.16, since it was merely a re-release of 12.15 with re-verified certificate signing.
My personal opinion is that if 12.16 is working fine on your system, there's certainly no reason to revert back to 12.14. By nature, I'm very careful and conservative about updating to any new version (such as from 12.14 to 12.16) if there's even a smell of instability, if the potential 'gains' are small. To me, that seemed to be the case there. But if you've got it (12.16) and it works on your system, by all means, keep it.
OS: Win 7-64 SP1 -- Web Browsers: Opera 12.14u, 11.52; Firefox 27; Qupzilla 1.4.2; IE8
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stng last edited by admin
Can you provide a link (or a reference of some kind) to the problems in 12.16 stemming from the updates? I'm curious to see what you mean. I haven't noticed any issues myself with 12.16, but obviously I wouldn't if it's a security exploit, rather than a bug.
I mean broken compatibility with a web-sites. Details: https://forums.opera.com/topic/550/prweb-crashes-opera
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vikingen last edited by
Can you provide a link (or a reference of some kind) to the problems in 12.16 stemming from the updates? I'm curious to see what you mean. I haven't noticed any issues myself with 12.16, but obviously I wouldn't if it's a security exploit, rather than a bug.
The problems were scattered through various threads in the old My Opera forums, and they were instability or memory-leak kinds of issues that certain users experienced. Some could be confirmed by some (but not all) other users, some never could be. They were not security-related. Sometimes the problems were site-specific, but not always. At the time, I helped in a few of the threads to try to aid trouble-shooting, but nothing clearly causal ever appeared, apart from version number - that is, 12.14 would work, 12.15/16 would cause the user problems to appear.
The 12.15 development work occurred during/just-after the time-frame of the Opera Presto personnel redirection/displacement upheaval, and some folks speculated that Opera's best Presto developers might not have been fully engaged in the update, so that it wasn't as well crafted or debugged. Again, that's only speculation, and I have no knowledge of its accuracy. In any case, whatever code was issued in 12.15 appeared as well in 12.16, since it was merely a re-release of 12.15 with re-verified certificate signing.
My personal opinion is that if 12.16 is working fine on your system, there's certainly no reason to revert back to 12.14. By nature, I'm very careful and conservative about updating to any new version (such as from 12.14 to 12.16) if there's even a smell of instability, if the potential 'gains' are small. To me, that seemed to be the case there. But if you've got it (12.16) and it works on your system, by all means, keep it.OS: Win 7-64 SP1 -- Web Browsers: Opera 12.14u, 11.52; Firefox 27; Qupzilla 1.4.2; IE8
Very interesting, blackbird71. I'm using 12.16 now, and for the most part it works okay, but now I can't log in at one website I use sometimes. I also get the occasional crash, but not often.
Perhaps I should consider 12.14? How much less secure is 12.14?
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blackbird71 last edited by
... Very interesting, blackbird71. I'm using 12.16 now, and for the most part it works okay, but now I can't log in at one website I use sometimes. I also get the occasional crash, but not often.
Perhaps I should consider 12.14? How much less secure is 12.14?From: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unified/1215/
Fixes and Stability Enhancements since Opera 12.14
General and User Interface
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Fixed an issue where the search bar's default engine could be overridden by third-party apps.
Security
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Fixed a moderately severe issue, as reported by Attila Suszter; details will be disclosed at a later date.
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Added safeguards against attacks on the RC4 encryption protocol; see our advisory. (http://www.opera.com/security/advisory/1046)
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Fixed an issue where cookies could be set for a top-level domain; see our advisory. (http://www.opera.com/security/advisory/1047)
12.16, of course, is the same as 12.15 in all relevant areas.
General note to nobody in particular: I'm coming to hate markup language with a passion! Formatting within a quote is a royal pain!!!
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vikingen last edited by
Three security problems fixed, but how big a threat they were I have no clue. It wouldn't be fair to ask you analyze it, so I'll just say thanks for the quote.
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stng last edited by
"Three security problems fixed, but how big a threat they were I have no clue. It wouldn't be fair to ask you analyze it, so I'll just say thanks for the quote."
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Those three security problems are pretty minor and irrelevant. For an example, there is NO critical vulnerabilities between 12.14 and 12.16 such as buffer-overflow thats allows remote code execution.
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Opera 12.14 with its marginal market share wouldn't be targened anyway.
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