Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@edydzn It's part of the old, Presto-based Opera Browser suite. See https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1218/int/ for the installer. It was discontinued many years ago.
There's also a standalone Opera Mail at https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mail/1.0/. It was basically a one-time experiment to hide everything but mail in the Opera Browser suite. Many still use it even though it was discontinued many years ago.
Vivaldi has a built-in mail client that's meant to be the sucessor of Opera Mail. It's come a long way and is pretty usable.
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@burnout426 Actually Michael, you remember Hugin and Munin? That could be considered the first case of a standalone Opera mail client. Opera Mail 1.0 was released when they decided to abandon Presto, as a way for people who had used mail in Opera up to 12.x to continue to do so while updating to the new Blink-based browser.. While there was a beta version of Opera Mail for Linux, there was no stable version released as the Blink-based Opera browser was delayed on Linux.)
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@sgunhouse said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
Actually Michael, you remember Hugin and Munin?
Yes, Rijk's Hugin custom menus, toolbars, and skin setup for mail-only use.
That could be considered the first case of a standalone Opera mail client.
Indeed.
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rh99 last edited by
@burnout426
Under the IMAP tab I have
Sent Folder Sent
Trash Folder Trash
Spam Folder Spam
I just want the Spam to only land in the Spam folder, not in my Unread or even Received folder. It seems that Opera just dumps them everywhere. It completely defeats the purpose of Spam if it lands in your Inbox cluttering everything up. I've even unchecked the
Check for new messages every #minutes
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426
@rh99 Hmm, as long as you have "Show spam" unchecked for "All Messages/Unread" and "All Messages/Received", spam shouldn't show in them.
What mail provider are you using?
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rh99 last edited by
And another thing that I don't understand under Properties of the mail account/IMAP:
When you first bring up this page/window its blank in the Sent, Trash and Spam folder. Then you come back to it its often Sent by Sent, Trash by Trash and Spam by Spam. No matter what it displays I can view Sent and Trash.
I have no idea how this thing is supposed to work. It must have been assembled by brain damaged people. It would be difficult to make it less intuitive. Or less logical.Besides Thunderbird what are ex Opera Mail people using now in Windows? (An email program not webmail.) Someone mentioned Vivaldi but that's webmail. Unless they also offer IMAP access? Do they?
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rh99 last edited by
@burnout426
Under the IMAP tab I have
Sent Folder Sent
Trash Folder Trash
Spam Folder Spam
I just want the Spam to only land in the Spam folder, not in my Unread or even Received folder. It seems that Opera just dumps them everywhere. It completely defeats the purpose of Spam if it lands in your Inbox cluttering everything up. I've even unchecked the
Check for new messages every #minutes
and it still comes in. -
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@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
Besides Thunderbird what are ex Opera Mail people using now in Windows?
Besides Thunderbird (which is really good), I use the built-in mail client in Vivaldi. It supports IMAP, POP, and feeds. It's really nice and has come a long way. It's purposely a lot like Opera Mail as it's meant to the be the successor to it.
For a plain-looking, old-school, IMAP client, I like Sylpheed.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
And another thing that I don't understand under Properties of the mail account/IMAP:
When you first bring up this page/window its blank in the Sent, Trash and Spam folder.This might be due to Special Use where the server (if it supports it) tells Opera what folders are for spam, sent, and trash etc. Opera might poll the server in that case to see what they are and then populate the drop-down. While Opera is closed, you can disable it in IncomingN.txt in the mail folder (where N is the number for the account as seen in accounts.ini). Then, you can set the special folders yourself and see if the drop-downs behave more like you'd expect.
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rh99 last edited by
@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
And another thing that I don't understand under Properties of the mail account/IMAP:
When you first bring up this page/window its blank in the Sent, Trash and Spam folder.This might be due to Special Use where the server (if it supports it) tells Opera what folders are for spam, sent, and trash etc. Opera might poll the server in that case to see what they are and then populate the drop-down. While Opera is closed, you can disable it in IncomingN.txt in the mail folder (where N is the number for the account as seen in accounts.ini). Then, you can set the special folders yourself and see if the drop-downs behave more like you'd expect.
Thank you very much. This is starting to make sense.
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rh99 last edited by
@burnout426
I'm trying it and the first thing I noticed was that the font was a little small. I looked through Help and saw nothing addressing this. Is there a way to set the minimum font? -
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@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
So why do you use Sylpheed over Thunderbird?
I don't use it over Thunderbird. I use it in addition to Thunderbird. I like the Sylpheed project and like to check up on it now and then. I used to test it a lot years ago.
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rh99 last edited by
@burnout426 Have you found anything with it that is preferable to Thunderbird? I'm just wondering where most people find Thunderbird lacking.
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rh99 last edited by
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Regarding Vivaldi's mail client: Is there any way of getting it to work with Windows 7? -
rh99 last edited by
@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
@rh99 Hmm, as long as you have "Show spam" unchecked for "All Messages/Unread" and "All Messages/Received", spam shouldn't show in them.
What mail provider are you using?
I don't see any place in Opera that mentions "Show spam" but I did right click each account in the left column, Customize, to see which box is checked. I unchecked Spam so we'll see how that works. Then I'll cross check that with the webmail account later to see. I did this yesterday and I think it worked.As for my providers there's a bunch. VFEMail, GMX, Yandex, Hotmail are a few. I'm getting spammed at GMX, Hotmail and Yandex. Its much better now though. I'm getting faster at blacklisting domains but its really a shame email providers don't make it a lot easier to just block a domain instead of an individual address which is quite useless as they can change that day to day if they control the domain. The blocking should work through IMAP. Logging into your webmail account is so tedious and time wasting. Clearly they are not addressing spam seriously even though they claim they are.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
@burnout426
Regarding Vivaldi's mail client: Is there any way of getting it to work with Windows 7?No. It uses Chromium like the browser part, so Win7 and 8.1 support have been discontinued just like in other Chromium-based browsers. You'd have to use an older build and the be stuck at that older build.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
I'm trying it and the first thing I noticed was that the font was a little small.
If you're talking about Sylpheed, goto configuration -> common preferences -> display. You can set font and size.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:
Have you found anything with it that is preferable to Thunderbird? I'm just wondering where most people find Thunderbird lacking.
Thunderbird is awesome. It's not really lacking much. I do like that Sylpheed has an option to specify and use an external editor (like Notepad++) for composing messages though. It also has a type option in the properties for each folder that you can set so that a folder gets the icon (like a trash icon) you want. It also has some technical options in "Configuration -> Common Preferences -> Send -> Encoding" to send message bodies as 8bit and encode headers according to RFC2231 (if you care about things like that). Sylpheed is just more technical if you're into that.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@rh99 With your free Vivaldi account, you also get a mail account with IMAP support and 5GB or storage. There's also a webmail for it at https://webmail.vivaldi.net/.
If you're not against Google/Gmail, it handles spam wonderfully and has IMAP support. It also learns from what you add/remove from the IMAP Spam folder. And, there are course filters you can specific on the server at mail.google.com.
