How do I get only site-specific user names and passwords?
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5zveqzrhwv last edited by
@leocg the one in opera is basically automated - included in the browser. Instead of ever trying to use that one (reminder - it doesn't appear to work for my use case) I'm going to try to find a better password manager. Or to just flail along as I do now.
Opera's behavior (and perhaps Chromium's) is fine for most folks. It doesn't work for me. No worries - I'm used to working around other people and getting things closer to the way I want them. I have 5 competing browsers open on my desktop and another 5 on my phone (not the same ones) right now. I use Opera as my primary browser when logging in to most things and it does a very poor job, on its own, of making that work. For my use case!
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donq last edited by
@5zveqzrhwv
Just a question - can you tell us, on what sites/pages you experience such behavior? We could at least look, what kind of html elements are behind username field.I have not seen any serious problems with username/password fields[*], but like other people said, it is quite possible that username box uses strange name/id internally and while typing you see simple autofill, which populates itself with all things, what you have entered into various textboxes.
[*] on one home router, where there is only password field (no username), Opera fills it wrong - but allows select correct password by emptying text and clicking on it with mouse.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@5zveqzrhwv Opera's password manager just automatically fil in the username and password fields, the rest is done (almost) manually.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
I would goto the URL
opera://aboutand take note of the "profile" path. Then, close Opera and delete the "Web Data" and "Web Data-journal" files in the profile folder. That will delete any autofill data for forms (but not your stored usernames and passwords). Then, I'd start Opera and see what shows up when you click the login form field on the site. If that clears things up, you're probably good to go. But, it eventually starts showing invalid things again, delete the Web Data files again, goto the URLopera://settings/addressesand turn off "Save and fill addresses" as the entries might be coming from there for some reason (because the site uses a certain name for the form field).If you still see invalid login info entries for the site, I'd goto the URL
opera://settings/passwordsto make sure there's nothing invalid in there. If you find invalid entries and delete them and that doesn't help the situation, go back toopera://settings/passwords, click the 3 vertical dots to the right of "saved passwords" and export your passwords to a csv file. Then, look at the CSV file to make sure there are no invalid entries in there. Then, while Opera is closed, deleete the Login Data file in the profile folder. Then, start Opera, goto the URLopera://flags/#PasswordImport, enable the flag, restart Opera, goto the URLopera://settings/passwordsagain, click the 3 vertical dots again, and choose to import the csv file. In short, you export your passwords, delete the password file and import your passwords back.If that doesn't clear things up, the extra user names are coming from somewhere else.
If you want, to see if any of that will work without messing with your normal Opera profile, export your passwords to a CSV file and import them into a standalone installation of Opera. You can then delete the installation when you're done testing.
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5zveqzrhwv last edited by
@donq it happens more often that not.
Here are a few examples:
https://www.tompkinstrust.com/ - no user name
https://we.windstream.com - no user name
https://app.reputation.com/auth - a long list of email addresses (none of which are the user for this site)
https://www.join.me/ - click on login then a long list of email addresses (none of which are the user for this site)Those are not just random examples - they are the first 4 links in my bookmarks. (The fifth link worked like it's supposed to!) So in this sample 80% of sites fail. Not a good average!
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donq last edited by
@5zveqzrhwv
First one has autocomplete="off", I have no user there either - nothing is suggested at all.
Second one is 403 forbidden, can't even see page.
Third and fourth have username field marked as type="email", id = "email", name="email" - nothing will hint that this is username or even text field. For me (having no accounts there) Opera suggested all e-mails, what I have had entered - quite like you described. Had I account there, results would maybe different.On sites what I'm using and have account for, username boxes usually are not marked as type="email", they are type="text". It is possible that Opera handles such "email" textboxes in strange (wrong) way, needs some more confirmation.
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5zveqzrhwv last edited by
@donq Ha! 403? Interesting. I can get there from any browser... And Chrome suggests some random email address for it, anyway.
I think that all of this is saying that none of it works anywhere and that browsers suck. If coders of web pages were uniform in their actions then maybe things would work better but my only hope of having anything work anywhere near well is to get a better password manager. At least, that's my takeaway!
Thanks for looking into those.
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donq last edited by
@5zveqzrhwv said in How do I get only site-specific user names and passwords?:
I think that all of this is saying that none of it works anywhere and that browsers suck.
This I can wholeheartedly agree
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
For sites that use autocomplete="off", see https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/autocomplete?_category=extensions. Scroll down on the page and you'll see 3 extensions that will force autocomplete to be on. One of them should work.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
Those will show you some of the matching code for autofill if you're interested.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by burnout426
@5zveqzrhwv said in How do I get only site-specific user names and passwords?:
https://app.reputation.com/auth - a long list of email addresses (none of which are the user for this site)
Hmm, I can't reproduce this in Opera or Chrome. In
opera://settings/addresses, I have 3 entries each with their own email address. None of them are suggested in the email field on the site. Same with https://www.join.me/login.aspx. -
5zveqzrhwv last edited by
Hmm, I can't reproduce this in Opera or Chrome. In
opera://settings/addresses, I have 3 entries each with their own email address. None of them are suggested in the email field on the site. Same with https://www.join.me/login.aspx.In that settings location I have 6 physical addresses 3 of which have email addresses none of which are the ones that show up in 6 email addresses that show up when I click in the email field at join.me!
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5zveqzrhwv last edited by
@burnout426 said in How do I get only site-specific user names and passwords?:
For sites that use autocomplete="off", see https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/autocomplete?_category=extensions.
Cool. Well, I'll add that to my arsenal of things but it seems that it will just add more entries to fields when I click on them
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@5zveqzrhwv Okay. I'd open the "Web Data" file in a text editor or sqlite reader and search for some of the addresses that do show up to see if they're in there at least.
If you don't find them there, I'd export your passwords to csv file (directions mentioned earlier) to confirm they're coming from your saved login data entries. If so, I would see if all the ones that show up on the https://www.join.me/login.aspx page have
https://www.join.me/login.aspxfor the page in the csv file. (Just to see if there's some kind of pattern besides a username being an email address.) -
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