www.lloydsbank.com crashes Opera
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oryx last edited by
@leocg As requested:
Version information Version: 45.0.2552.898 - Opera is up to date
Update stream: Stable
System: Ubuntu 14.04.6 LTS (x86; Unity)
Browser identification Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/58.0.3029.110 Safari/537.36 OPR/45.0.2552.898This is supposed to be an uploaded screenshot of the reply screen:
I contacted Lloyds by 'phone [45 minutes of my valuable time] "there's nothing wrong with your account, it's probably the browser - raise a query with them or upload Chrome or Outlook"
Old thread - ok, it was a long time but I was replying to a question on a live thread .... but ok, your forum after all!
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A Former User last edited by
From what you mention.
You are on ubuntu 14.04, which has reached eol this May, so you no longer get security updates for anything and you can not install anything, because its repos have closed down
You are on a 32bit system, so you are stuck on opera 45, which is the last 32bit version of opera. May I ask what hardware are you on? Please don't be on an atom netbook!
That opera 45 identifies to sites as chromium 58, so sites like the one of your bank refuse to let it in because it lacks a ton of security updates. My bank only allows the latest version of any browser, not even a previous one.
So yes, as far as the bank is concerned, the problem is on your side and it does not have to do with vpn etc. -
A Former User last edited by
~24 hours have passed and he has not replied again. I hope he won't return next year to continue
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oryx last edited by
@jimunderscorep Yes, here I am at last.
How much we ordinary mortals value the time and attention you guys take to sift through our [sometimes silly?] questions.
For some reason I never get emails notifying me of traffic to this forum which is part of the reason for the 'gaps'. The other is that I have had to use another pc to access the Lloyds site [tx for your explanation as to why].
This PC is a tool to me, not a hobby. As a user all I want is a stable setup that works forever without needing constant attention [ok, get real you rightly say] which is why I'm on LINUX.
Swapping to a clean installation [more or less obligatory-long story] of Ubuntu 18.04 will destroy the hours of tedious work I've put in to eradicate all the annoying default settings 14.04 came with and force me to do it all again. As long as 14.04 doesn't fall over I'll stick with it [but I agree, your helpful comments seem to point to 14.04 making problems for me].
Poking 'Terminal' the current hardware is a HP Pavilion: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 430 @ 1.73GHz: 3800MHz: 1733MHz.
Other financial sites work fine with this setup, so the bank may have a problem: it may well lose one small customer [though I doubt it will give a blank].
Thanks for the VERY useful explanation - food for thought. -
A Former User last edited by leocg
First of all, there's no such thing as "a stable setup that works forever" in linux as a desktop os. Everything changes so rapidly that things become obsolete very fast. Let me use the example a friend of mine gave me some years ago: let's say i give you 2 disks, one of windows 8.1 and one of debian 7. Both of them were released in 2013. Which one would you keep and which one would you throw away?". I think the answer is more than obvious here.
The very nature of linux as a desktop os forces you to move to something newer, because new apps can not be built with old libs, new initsystems can not boot old kernels etc.
I still remember the argument I had with a user here on opera forums, when a new version of opera could not be installed on his 14.04 because it needed a newer version of some dbus lib. In his mind, kde4 and everything else 14.04 had was perfect and everything that plasma and the fresh ubuntu version of that that time had was bloat. In my mind, he was just overreacting, because I knew that flaw of linux as a desktop os. And I even got a downvote for that!
Here is the thread if you want to have a look
https://forums.opera.com/topic/24994/can-t-install-opera-51-on-ubuntu-14-04-ltsAs far as your hardware is concerned. According to intel's page here, your cpu may not be an atom, but it is not 64bit capable (32bit instruction set under advanced technologies)
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/27150/intel-celeron-m-processor-430-1m-cache-1-73-ghz-533-mhz-fsb.htmlThis limits your choices for a distro way too much, because some distros have dropped their 32bit versions completely in the last few years (arch, sabayon, elementary etc) and others have put them in lower priority, e.g. ubuntu has stopped releasing the iso for the 32bit desktop version since 17.10!
On top of that, that low demand on 32bit linux distros is reflected on the availability of closed source apps. Why would opera (opera browser), google (chrome), microsoft (skype, vs code etc) waste resources on something whose popularity is decreasing every year?To sum up, if you do want to keep opera and have it work on all sites, get some new hardware. Even todays intel atom cpus are 64bit!
If you do not care about opera, find a distro that has 32bit support and is a rolling one, so that you won't have to reinstall it every few years.
