Where "Extended lazy session loading"???
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Deleted User last edited by
Okay, so this is the problem I'm having. But judging by leocg's tone in this thread, no one cares (other than the apparent few that have encountered the problem) or thinks it deserves attention. Installing third party tools to fix problems in my browser isn't a viable option for me. I guess I'll go back to Google Chrome until v47.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Okay, so this is the problem I'm having
What problem? Loading opened tabs is the expected behavior of a browser so I don't see a problem with it at all.
If opening pages are causing issues, it has nothing to do with the existence of the 'extended lazy loading' flag and should be discussed in a separated topic.
Installing third party tools to fix problems in my browser isn't a viable option for me.
You wouldn't be doing it to solve a problem but to add a feature.
I guess I'll go back to Google Chrome until v47.
Opera 47 will not bring back the 'extend lazy loading' flag, Opera 48 neither.
Like I said before, anyone can request a option to not load background tabs on startup in Suggestions Box.
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Deleted User last edited by
Well, let me put it this way. I run multiple tabs at once on my browser ... like 10 of them. I had my browser set to load a single tab when I continue where I left off - the tab that comes up is the only one that loads. Background tabs never loaded unless I went to them. I loved this feature. But now my browser is loading all the tabs simultaneously. This indicates that there has been a change in the way the tab feature works. Unless you're telling me that Opera was never intended to work the way I have been using it, which I don't think is the case. Why has this option been removed? Or why is it not working?
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Deleted User last edited by
Seriously? That feature was an experiment? For how many years? You know what, never mind. It's a standard feature in all other browsers, I fail to understand why it would not occur to Opera devs to make it available, so I won't beat a dead horse. Thank you for your responses, I appreciate it.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
That feature was an experiment?
Everything in opera://flags is a experiment and either can be turned into something regular or just be removed.
In fact the default behavior of the extend lazy loading flag was the current one but some people used to disable it so background tabs wouldn't run until become active.
For how many years?
Years? I don't remember it had been running for so long. At least as an Opera flag.
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Deleted User last edited by
I have been using Opera that way from the moment I installed it. I do that on any browser I use. Which is why I'm kinda confused. I used Opera for at least a year before I heard of Opera flags and experiment settings, which I came across while trying to figure out how to retain my settings. Trust me, if that feature had not been available on Opera, I would not be here now because it wouldn't have lasted a day on any of my machines.
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Deleted User last edited by
Okay, so I've just found out the "extended lazy session" not working anymore.
It violates the main usability principle: the application needs to adapt, not the user.
I hate when it loads all the inactive tabs I don't need at this particular moment and clogs the RAM. Looks like shit. I have been using the Opera since 2004, I didn't quit it when they ruined Presto, but now... I guess, that's another reason to stop using Opera. I don't want to upgrade the system just to have the application working properly. Neither do I want to adapt to the rules it dictates.
Guys, don't feed this local jerk leocg who knows nothing about the usability and psychology of verbal communication, although he/she speaks a lot. -
molvayas last edited by
Well I just googled Firefox and not loading background tabs is the default setting of the program.
"When you restart Firefox and restore your previous session, Firefox will wait until you select a tab before loading it. This keeps Firefox running quickly and smoothly."
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/allow-firefox-load-multiple-tabs-background
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molvayas last edited by
Removing "extended lazy session" was the stupidest idea. Or not implementing it permanently if you so prefer.... On older machines using too much RAM is an obvious fault. But even on my gaming comp, where i would run a browser along with a high performance game it's eating up my RAM. Not to mention my friends case, where he has a limited net contract, and loading every currently unused tab each time he opens Opera is insane. And stupid suggestions like don't keep tabs open or don't run browser in the background or buy even more RAM are not helpful. Why would I have adapt to a program that is performing worse than it did before. I too have been using opera for 10 years or so, but it seems I have to look for an other browser, the can perform this really simple task of not loading background tabs.
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Deleted User last edited by
Take note, Opera devs.
devs team will not look for this page. Just a jerk running around
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A Former User last edited by
I have lazy on but it doesn't do anything. I think it's on hold while they trim tab hibernation to the polish. Tabs aren't hibernating either.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
I have lazy on but it doesn't do anything
It should delay the start of background pages loading.
I think it's on hold while they trim tab hibernation to the polish. Tabs aren't hibernating either.
As far as I know, tab hibernation was removed a long time ago.
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spaoid last edited by
I tried searching for the Extended Lazy Session Loading thread in the suggestion box but I'm too dumb to figure out how to search the suggestion box only so I ended up searching the entire forum and all i can find is this thread and a few support threads.
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spaoid last edited by
I'm an idiot and i don't even know how to use a web browser. I know i should go back to all my old tabs and close or bookmark them but for some stupid reason all i do is open up more tabs, thinking I'll come back to them later in a few minutes but I never do because I'm a worthless lazy pathetic excuse for a human being. Firefox becomes unstable with too many tabs open and Chrome and Opera don't lazy load and I have a data cap because I'm too stupid to get a proper job. I know I'm an idiot and I know you all hate me and I want everybody to hate me. I'm sorry but I don't know what to do because I'm so stupid I deserve to have my head bashed in. I sometimes go back bookmark a few and Close Tabs to the Right the rest but I don't do it often enough so I end up with a mountain of garbage that I am too stupid and lazy to clean up.
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Deleted User last edited by
So ... this forum is run by a random jerk? Why do we post here if Opera devs don't even pay attention? How did some random fool start this whole thing up?
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alef last edited by
demitsuri : How to make Opera 46 not to load all tabs to memory by default?
leocg : Don't keep tabs opened.
demitsuri : Not a variant. Other ideas?
leocg : Maybe upgrade the computer? Sorry, there don't seem to be any solution other than deal with it.
That behaviour of opening tons of tabs was working fine since forever (I stayed on Opera Presto until it got implemented in Opera Blink), and is available on at least Vivaldi and Firefox.
I don't think I should have to upgrade my computer to 16 or even 32 GB RAM just to open the session on tabs I could open without troubles before.leocg : So why keep those tabs opened? If I have some tabs opened when I start a browser is because I - and I believe also 99% of people - want them to load as soon as possible at browser start up.
If not then I would bookmark those pages or get them from history.Beleiving that 99% of the people are doing just like you is pretty self-centered. In my friend group, I know at least 10 people who are keeping tons of tabs opened, and I'm not assuming we're the majority.
The thing is, Opera isn't used by a majority of people, it's like 1 or 2% market share, and is (or at least was) pretty centered on nerd and power-users, which are more likely to keep tons of tabs.
Bookmarking, and then finding that bookmark again are actions that I didn't need to bother with before, and other browsers like Vivaldi and Firefox don't require me to do those actions.
leocg : And what if the problem is not the pages being loaded? Unless you are talking about very heavy ones, web pages loading should not cause any major issue.
Try to open 400 pages, and let's talk again.
demitsuri : Store tabs to bookmarks, and then open them back - Usability => 0.
leocg : Well, it's just one possible way to handle the problem you've created, there may be others.
leocg : Yes, you. You were the one who decided that you had to have a bunch of tabs opened all the time.
A problem that we created, really ? We were just using one of the features of Opera (which used to be a stable feature not an experiment in Opera Presto).
And saying it again in case you forgot, Vivaldi and Firefox have that feature built-in.
ghostlogic : Seriously? That feature was an experiment? For how many years?
leocg : Years? I don't remember it had been running for so long. At least as an Opera flag.
Googled it, Opera 21, March 2014 : https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/03/opera-developer-21-0-1432-5/
To sum my message up (or TL;DR as they say), leocg, you're too close-minded, there are couple of users complaining about a feature that was there for YEARS, that Opera was the first to put in the Presto version, and that is nowadays copied by other browsers (at least Vivaldi and Firefox), that feature is then taken out which makes it hard to open Opera on high-end computers, and yet you insists that the bunch of us complaining were using it wrong, just because we're not using it exactly like you.
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gh0streturns last edited by
You are very right, alef. If it helps, I have a background in psychology. Whenever I can't figure out someone's angle, I play the fool to see what I can get out of them. That said, I fail to understand how Opera lets leocg act as a mod on these forums. (had to sign up with a new account because I somehow got locked out of my other one)
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
I have no complaints about Leo, but if I did this is not the place for them. He and I, and a few others, are charged with enforcing the rules here; one rule is that this forum is about Opera browser. Another is that personal attacks are not allowed, anywhere. If your previous posts were like that one, I can understand why you were banned, if I saw it I might even have been the one who banned you. Consider this your warning.
Back on topic - if you have posted about this in the Suggestion Box forum there is nothing more to be done. We moderators are not developers and have no say in what features are added or removed. Therefore this thread is closed.
