New Opera stable 45
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aleksod last edited by
I do not understand why this particular release deserved a special code name "Reborn". New dark theme, new icons, and new side bar (albeit already present in the new tab page in previous releases) are new, but not deserving (in my opinion) of such promotion campaign. The only new "feature" in this release is the introduction of chat applications, and those are just website frames run by chat service providers, not Opera. This was already possible to do by just going to those websites or using the Web Panel extension (https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/web-panel/?display=en). What exactly is new here and coming from Neon? Why so much fanfare? Maybe I am missing something.
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Deleted User last edited by
I do not understand why this particular release deserved a special code name "Reborn". New dark theme, new icons, and new side bar (albeit already present in the new tab page in previous releases) are new, but not deserving (in my opinion) of such promotion campaign. The only new "feature" in this release is the introduction of chat applications, and those are just website frames run by chat service providers, not Opera. This was already possible to do by just going to those websites or using the Web Panel extension (https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/web-panel/?display=en). What exactly is new here and coming from Neon? Why so much fanfare? Maybe I am missing something.
This. We get so much promotion for so little, but I believe we are still heading toward something better. The built-in ad blocker is finally worthy of replacing extensions, for example.
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aleksod last edited by
The built-in ad blocker is finally worthy of replacing extensions, for example.
I respectfully disagree. I think using adblockers is immoral because it hurts content providers. If privacy is your concern, then there are solutions to prevent tracking, but depriving content creators of revenue is just wrong. Opera is being hypocritical when they say they are on the side of users by making adblocking native, and then they go ahead and blast us with ads when we use Opera Max while explaining in-app that they need ads to make the service free. Guess what? Content providers also need ads to make their content free. That's such a two-faced approach.
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aleksod last edited by
We get so much promotion for so little
The marketing department needs to be occupied somehow, I guess.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
think using adblockers is immoral because it hurts content providers
For a long time I used to agree with you. However, since a while I changed my opinion because the amount of ads has became too big and very intrusive.
Depending on your device it may be kinda hard to read some pages because of the ads.
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aleksod last edited by
think using adblockers is immoral because it hurts content providers
For a long time I used to agree with you. However, since a while I changed my opinion because the amount of ads has became too big and very intrusive.
Depending on your device it may be kinda hard to read some pages because of the ads.That is not happening across the board, though. Some click-baity articles suffer from that and should be punished in a free-market fashion, by being deprived of their user base. Others offer quite tolerable ad experience.
It seems that Opera exercises double standards when it comes to their own products as the amount and the intrusiveness of ads in Opera Max is excessive and rivals those click-bait practices they are (allegedly) trying to fight.
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Deleted User last edited by
I respectfully disagree. I think using adblockers is immoral because it hurts content providers. If privacy is your concern, then there are solutions to prevent tracking, but depriving content creators of revenue is just wrong. Opera is being hypocritical when they say they are on the side of users by making adblocking native, and then they go ahead and blast us with ads when we use Opera Max. That's such a two-faced approach.
Hence it is an option which has, as far as I know, always come disabled by default in Opera. Whether we rely on an extension or built-in functionality, the users who wish to block ads will continue to do so. Opera has simply provided most of its users with what they want.
Up until a couple of years ago, websites could get lots of money through ads on their web pages which they should not have been getting in the first place. I suggest you to have a closer look at the industry as you will find that ad publishers and ad networks love ad blocking. It allows them to continue to maximise revenue through those they wish to reach whilst keeping expenses at a minimum. It benefits both parties.
Most if not all ad blocking solutions also allow white listing of ads, and plenty of users do it when their favourite sites ask them to. Opera has provided the option since the very beginning as far as I am aware.
Feel free to disagree and continue your ad full web browsing experience, but your attitude regarding built-in ad blocking is simply inapt.
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aleksod last edited by
Alright, let's keep on topic. Does Opera 45 deserve to be called "brand spanking new Reborn"?
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Deleted User last edited by
@leocg My reply to a reply is off-topic but your reply (to the same reply) is fine? My reply was regarding the improved ad blocking introduced in this release which is not exactly ‘off-topic’. While I support forum moderation, your reply is three replies (including one of your own) too late.
Does Opera 45 deserve to be called "brand spanking new Reborn"?
I do not believe it does, but I like the improvements albeit small.
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kyu3 last edited byI like Opera 45 Reborn! Good looking. Fast. Adblock feature become to be more useful!
But I hope to add Twitter to new sidebar. Because I think many users tweet with looking Youtube video & Facebook Live!
And One question. LINE is most popular messenger service in Japan. Do you have a plan to add LINE to new sidebar?
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Deleted User last edited by
@kyu3 Careful, Sir. This forum has twisted moderation in place. Discussing ad block is considered off-topic for everyone except the moderator even though it is mentioned in the OP and therefore ‘on-topic’, so let alone mentioning LINE.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Discussing ad block is considered off-topic for everyone except the moderator even though it is mentioned in the OP and therefore ‘on-topic
Yes, discussion on if ad-blocking is fair or not fair is totally off-topic in this topic. Anyone who wants to discuss about it can do it in Lounge like I said before.
And this discussion has ended.
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wikarth last edited by
Hello, sorry if this is the wrong place to comment, but I would like to be a voluntary translator into Norwegian Nynorsk. Since support of the language stopped in 2014, we are many who have wanted it back. I am sure I will be able to find more volunteers also, as I am a member of "Noregs Mållag", a community of Nynorsk users both on and off the Internet. Nynorsk is used by roughly 25 % of the Norwegian population, around 1.5 million people. I would like to know how to start helping you as soon as possible. I may post this also in other threads to try to get an answer from the translator admins, if I find a better place to post. My address is wikarth (a) gmail.com , please contact me there for faster reply.
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kyu3 last edited by
@tufuzay and @leocg
I can't understand you said. I didn't write about discussion of adblock in previous comment. I wrote "Adblock of Opera 45 is good!" and "I hope Twitter on new sidebar". And I wrote one question. "LINE is most popular messenger service in Japan. Do you have a plan to add LINE to new sidebar?".
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l33t4opera last edited byNew update - Opera stable 45.0.2552.812
The change log, and the announcement.
"Today, we would like to share an updated stable build with you. It contains a few important fixes:
– Unpinned Opera does not pin itself back to the Windows taskbar anymore. Many of you reported this issue to us under the last blog post – thank you!
– Red UI elements in high-DPI issue is fixed.
– Global menu in Unity is back.
– Current theme is now updated, when selecting it from “Customize start page”."
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l33t4opera last edited by
New update - Opera stable 45.0.2552.881
The change log, and the announcement.
"Hi, it’s a quick Stable update, that we’ve prepared for you for the end of this week. Have a nice weekend, and see you on Monday!
Highlights:
– Fixed some UI issues on Linux: O-menu elements are more visible again, and the menu is positioned correctly. Plus, the context menu does not have a black border anymore.
– Fixed a crash on the extensions sidebar, when right-clicking.
– Added more space on the tab bar, to make it easier to drag Opera's window (macOS).
– Fixed the 1px issue, while watching full screen videos."
Chromium has been updated to version 58.0.3029.110.
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l33t4opera last edited by
New update - Opera stable 45.0.2552.888
The change log, and the announcement.
Highlights:
– A few fixes and improvements - especially in network installer.
– Fixed the ‘Start speaking’ function on macOS.
– New translations.
\m/ :cheers:
