Opera Sold
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zalex108 last edited byDo you have a back up of Opera folder system & profile?
So, maybe it's time to do it...
I don't think Chinese people will do rubbish with Opera but after read some comments would be a good point to take advantage and make a full backup.
"You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Does anyone know what's going to happen now that the sale is completed?
Opera was divided in two companies: Opera ASA and Opera Software AS.
Opera ASA is the holding responsable for Opera Mediaworks, Bemobi, Skyfire and SurfEasy. Opera Software AS will keep doing Opera's browsers.
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Deleted User last edited by
Does anyone know what's going to happen now that the sale is completed?
Opera was divided in two companies: Opera ASA and Opera Software AS.
Opera ASA is the holding responsable for Opera Mediaworks, Bemobi, Skyfire and SurfEasy. Opera Software AS will keep doing Opera's browsers.Okay. Thanks.
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Deleted User last edited by
Goodbye, Opera.
Goodbye, Zhou Hongyi.(posted from the Chrome I installed yesterday)
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Deleted User last edited by
@xiaokaoy:
Goodbye, Opera.
Opera's servers are still run under Norway's rules.
Goodbye, Zhou Hongyi.
I'd rather have him looking at my browser history than Larry Page or Sergey Brin.
posted from the Chrome I installed yesterday
so now all your data belongs to Alphabet, Inc.
Congratulations to your smart decision.
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blackbird71 last edited bySo that is the reason opera got seriously messed up. They changed everything I loved about this browser and it will only get worse...
Any meaningful effects of Opera's sale have yet to ripple through to the design of Opera. Software design simply doesn't move that fast, for better or worse.
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A Former User last edited by
Actors and proprietors are not the same.
There are different degrees of proprietors' influences on enterprises. For example, there is a landlord that doesn't give a crack, when there is a family living in an apartment minding own business.
Huh! there is this case. Russia. Administration changes from crooks to thieves, then it takes a couple of decades for the country to visibly show signs of falling apart.A couple of years ago, a bank here changed hands. Undereducated people here might have got startled about it, but nothing happened: there money wasn't stolen, offices didn't close... Some improvements though in service have accumulated since.
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fdadsa3 last edited by
ive used 360 on and off for a few years. i am not very impressed with them, but i am no more impressed with western "security software" either. i think alot of the comments on here are not credible as they criticise Chinese software while ignoring western "security threts". i mean do we honestly know what norton, mcafe, avira, and avast do with the info after they scan our hardrives? let's not kid ourselves, western corprations are no more transparent than China, or North Koria. ive used alot of western "antiviruses", and all they did was slow down my computer, while not really killing any viruses. i dont see any shils say "oh hel no, im never using european software anymore". in any case, i would like to see China try to take presto one step further. i also think that China should fork firefox. use your common sense. i would feel much safer with my data in China, that way, it would be much harder for cops from the west to snoop through my data, particularly if i was living in a western country. as it stands, any cop from any western country can pretty much get your data with a warant which is very easy to get in western courts (ie europe), [ive personally witnessed how easy it was for western cops to obtain warants from western rejimes with very little or no reason at all] however, if they wanted to get your data from China, i would imagine it would be difficult for western authorities (and they would actually need legitimate reasons), or anyone for that matter to obtain your data legally. and perhaps thats the real reason why u see so many shils fear mongering over Chinese software. but you know what, i still use Chinese browsers for different purposes, just cause all the shils tell me not to
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fdadsa3 last edited by
let me also add that i pretty much stopped using opera after 12.15. and it was a mistake for them to discontinue presto. whats the point of using opera if all the later versions are chrome anyway? if im going to use a chrome based browser, might as well just use 360 or maxthon directly? my hope is that China will come up with an independent browser, independent from gecko, ie, and chrome. unfortunately, the Chinese are too afraid of offending their western masters.
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blackbird71 last edited by
... let's not kid ourselves, western corprations are no more transparent than China, or North Koria. ...
If you can't recognize the vast differences between "Western corporations" and "China or North Korea", then there's not much point in discussing that further. Your comments, after all, seem to revolve around issues of a user's privacy concerns regarding his local or national law enforcement agencies possibly exploiting user data against the user. It also seems apparent you haven't spent quality time living in either of those two countries experiencing their encompassing and repressive citizen observation techniques.
The only relevant question, IMO, is the degree of design independence Opera will continue having from governmental intrusions by any nationality, going forward. I have yet to see any reason for meaningful concern in that regard. If Chinese owners invest significant financial resources into Opera's browser design without inserting elements that undermine the privacy integrity of the browser, its sync mechanisms, or its VPN/Turbo network, that presents no inherent problem and could greatly improve the browser. On the other hand, if blocks of Chinese-originated or mandated code are shoehorned into the browser or VPN/Turbo servers for obscure or nefarious purposes, that would be a different story; and I would expect a corresponding outcry from Opera's experienced designers - and others - outside China. At this point, all that's happened is a financial sale has closed.
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Deleted User last edited by
well and truthful spoken, sir
@opera:
where would i find your warning canary?
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nerv2 last edited by
Opera was 'sold' in 2010 right after Google's Mechs takeover in AD 2009. Boo!
"God's in his Heaven/All's right with the world!" :rip:
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A Former User last edited by
Been with Opera for many years (late 90's) and was sorry to see the switch from Presto to Blink and of course the departure of its founder AND the loss of the "My Opera" blogs and forum. I noticed in the news that following the acquisition of key parts of the company, several tier-one engineers submitted their resignations. One has to wonder if they know something we users do not but only time will tell. Under Chinese ownership the question of surveillance and possible financial hacking is one that would make me hesitant to use the browser for any shopping or banking. Maybe my tinfoil hat is a little tight but I simply do not trust the Chinese to that extent. I'm so saddened to see Opera following this course and suppose that the only real alternative now is Vivaldi. Any thoughts?
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A Former User last edited by
Thoughts on an alternative?
Yes, I have a thought.
It's an incentive to start caring about human rights in China. :sherlock:
