UI overhaul in Opera 37.1

A Former User

testing opera beta 37.1.2192.107416. had to hunt for a beta apk, for some reason my playstore installs opera beta with same release number as stable release.

i haven't found bugs yet, but i do have some dislikes. like a lot of folks, the ui is too different. i agree with most of the dislikes others have posted, but i think mine are new.

there doesn't seem to be a tablet ui in settings. i'm guessing you haven't had time to work on it. the current ui seems to be a variant of classic, which i don't like.

no save page for offline use.

want a way to cause a page to re-use current tab rather than opening a new tab. i prefer the way stable tablet mode works,ie default is re-use, with right click or long press bring up choice menu.

placement of home button on bottom bar causes problems with android 5.1. it's right above androis exit to home screen (round icon). i think home button should be moved left or right to avoid accidental press of android exit to home.

i'm not interested in news, and a lot of space ob tab bar is wasted by showing all the news categories. hopefully you'll implement a tablet interface with top bar similar to stable release, and provide a button somewhere to get at news, etc.

while not a dealbreaker, i would like a separate button for ooening bookmarks, or something on the 3-dot menu at top. using the person button is not intuitive.

A Former User

ps

sorry for typos in previous comment. opera beta hung a couple of times and i couldn't correct.

A Former User

just noticed that long press still brings up open in new, private, etc. so maybe you just leave that and have a settings option open in current tab (i realize that some sites always open links in new tab)

A Former User

previously i asked where save page had gone. after my third read of other posts, i find it's now save to reading list. i agree with another poster that it's not intuitive.

A Former User

just saw on google play that someone wants user agent (desktop/mobile) switching to stay in effect only for the current site rather than until changed in settings. i understand that user's wish, but my two cents worth.

a fairly major reason i use opera instead of chrome/firefox is that user agent setting is saved until changed. for various reasons, i almost always want desktop agent with my tablet.

my suggestion is something for user agent in setting something like desktop/mobile/default. with default, there could be a 3-dot menu item to request desktop site (like chrome).

nshr87

nshr87

I like new design very much, but I have a small suggestions about it.

Here they are:

Back button on the bottom menu completely duplicates standard android "back" button. So, it should be removed for something more useful.
"Reload" button on the bottom menu completely duplicates commonly used "shift down" gesture, so this button is also could be removed
3."Share button".. I think its really rarely used, so it also could be moved somewhere else from the bottom menu.
Start/Home page could be simply united with "user center" as a tab in it, once again clearing the space from the bottom menu.

As a result, 3 buttons menu are gone from the bottom meny without ANY loss of the functionality. And this free space could be used for address bar and the new three-dot-menu button.

I imagine it will be something like this: https://s12.postimg.org/ah91hlz3h/suggest_Opera.png

Hope this will help you in any way!

Sorry for my English. And sorry for Paint

nshr87

nshr87

A little bit cleaner image for my post above:
https://s11.postimg.io/drrnx4i5f/suggest_Opera.png

Another two feature I have in mind are gestures-related:

Swipe left/right on address bar (or on bottom menu) gesture to change page (as Chrome does)
Without calling tabs page, long press on Tabs button bringing up pages preview, then, without releasing the button, swiping left/right to navigate fast between tabs.
https://s21.postimg.org/sf9zjunhj/suggest_Opera2.png

I think this will save some clicks for users)

mrninko

mrninko

After today's update what is that arrow in 3-dot menu?
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mrninko

mrninko

I meant this https://s12.postimg.org/7ldkxn5vh/sketch_1473879372909.png

mrninko

mrninko

Why did you hide all features with page deeper in menu??!! Really bad move! https://s22.postimg.org/9v65h8qn5/sketch_1473879335330.png

mrninko

mrninko

Could you make gaps in bookmarks section smaller?

texetboo

texetboo

My version of the toolbar
http://imgdisk.ru/images/2016/09/15/beta.png

It's more convenient, I think

A Former User

Some problems:

Tapping on the sync icon shows briefly the other synced speed dials then the browser minimizes in a loop.

After usiing the tab selector for quite some time the browser froze again.

coolxi

coolxi

It is really an issue to offer an option for tablet mode on phones?

mrninko

mrninko

Windows in tab selector are still white. When do you plan to fix it finally?

A Former User

I meant this https://s12.postimg.org/7ldkxn5vh/sketch_1473879372909.png

It's the forward button mate, they decided to put it there and have the share button constantly in our face instead

A Former User

Opera Beta 37.1.2192.108172
Android 5.1
Verizon Ellipsis 10 tablet

With this release, Opera's getting there. I realize some of the changes are quick fixes and not permanent. With this in mind, here are my comments about new problems and fixes.

New Problems:

Tablet users can only use tablet layout. From reviews on Google Play Store, it seems that some people are using classic layout with tablets. Those users are probably going to be unhappy; those using tablet layout are probably going to be happy. I'm guessing this was a quick fix, and hope you'll ultimately restore Phone/Classic/Tablet in settings for everyone.

If you have open tabs, then go to Home screen (Speed Dial or News), you cannot get back to tabs without opening another tab via search bar, Speed Dial, Bookmark, or Tab Manager.

If you have existing tabs, and open a new tab with Speed Dial, the new tab is placed before existing tabs; if you open new tab with another method, it's placed after existing. I prefer "after" placement, but could get used to "before". Behavior should, of course, be consistent.

Fixes:

Thanks for changing "Reading list" to "Offline pages".

Thanks for restoring Forward. I'm guessing placement in pulldown menu is a quick fix, and will ultimately change.

Other Issues:

I can't check some of the other issues, since I have only a tablet and can no longer use classic layout.

A Former User

P.S. to my previous comment

I like the new placement of the X on existing tabs before text rather than after. While this is different from other browsers I use, and will take some getting used to, it solves the problem of the X sometimes not being visible with a lot of existing tabs.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer

Windows in tab selector are still white. When do you plan to fix it finally?

It works here.

A Former User

Overall....I'm not loving the changes.

I understand that betas are meant for trialing new things so heres some feedback for you devs

I LOATHE that I can no longer view my tabs across the top (tablet layout) using my smartphone.
That essentially is the number 1 reason I use Opera as my primary browser.
I miss being able to swipe left for my History right from the main Speed dial screen.
I miss being able to choose my download location, even being able to select a location on my micro SD for larger downloads.
I'm worried that the news feeds will be updating while not using the app, affecting my battery consumption. If it only updates when Opera is launched, then we're good.
There's a bug when checking on the Data savings box. It doesn't check on though the features enable. Pressing the button again adds the tick but disables\greys out the options.

Now the things that I like:

The general appearance looks nice and modern.
The news feed is cool but I tend to use twitter for my news so it really becomes redundant to me. It would be nice to have a toggle that would remove all feed\news tabs from the main screen.
Red Opera banner is too large and I actually prefer the look once it's swiped up.

That's about it....cosmetic changes doesn't improve my experience, feature removal ruins my experience...but hey! That's what betas are for, right?