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I should add that if anyone else has any problematic sites, please chime in. Or if anyone else has had a different experience at either of these two, let us know. Plus this is no endorsement of FF, just the first other browser that I happened to try.
At Vanguard I was able to login, but then I couldn't transact. I got a grey or brownish screen when I expected to see a list of funds from which to do a transaction. I used FF instead.
At Starbucks, I couldn't login. I was informed that my logon had failed, but when I went to FF, no problem.
My experience on Opera is that this sort of thing happens periodically, sadly. Not to mention webpages trying to tell me that my browser is out of date, when I have the latest version. They attempt to get the users to switch to one of the large market share browsers.
Does Opera maintain a list of websites that don't work, or don't work fully or properly, when accessed via Opera? Many sites try to claim that Opera is not up to date, and attempt to get the users to switch to something of their choice, one of the ones with greater market share. Some sites--not many--simply do not work properly with Opera. Can we report them to some post here? Presumably this would be for people using the current version, or at least a recent one, not an ancient one. If people posted particular URLs which don't render correctly, or otherwise do not work in some respect, noting how they don't work, theoretically Opera could look into it, and if it were fixed, it could be noted in the same list, or removed.
If you only use the offline download ( https://www.opera.com/download ) of Opera, you can click to disallow four items found within "Configure in settings" (pertaining to Opera's collection and use of your browsing data): "Categories of data we may collect" two: "General interests based on websites you may visit or search," and "General location," then two more: "How we use the data:" "Personalized content" and "Ads personalized based on your interests." I always uncheck all four of these, the default is checked on. (Previous to that you are also presented four other choices, with Opera's default preferences selected, which you can also uncheck, if desired) Then you click "Confirm choices." I assume that when you let Opera automatically update your version, the default of opting in to their use of your data is in effect. Therefore I don't use auto update.
I noticed that auto update did work recently on one of my installations, and that 112.0.5197.73 then 112.0.5197.96 were installed, but I reinstalled 112.0.5197.53 instead, not trusting that my opt-outs would be honored by the auto updates--which aren't listed as stable updates, not listed all all that I can tell!
I also note that Opera uses the task updatechecker.exe which posts cookies which cannot be deleted without using the Task Manager to End Task: updatechecker.exe, which is a pain, as I prefer to delete all cookies upon shutting down for the night. So, beware.
Unless anyone wishes to disabuse me of my paranoia about Opera's desire to harvest and make money of my data, selling it to unmown parties, or what, who knows? Most folks I expect don't care. Fair enough, Opera has to stay in business somehow.
Is any other browser a superior protector of one's data and privacy? Rhetorical, I expect. One can search for best browsers, I suppose. Why use Opera, if it peeves me in these instances? It allows use of an extension not available elsewhere, a legacy extension.
FWIW, there are settings, "Privacy consent settings," which one can also manually check and select one's preferences, if auto update seems to have overridden one's preferences with the Opera defaults, which I did not confirm that it does. Anyone know?
I attempted to manually install it via download from the download page on Win 10/64 machines, and it appeared to hang, or I got multiple/repeated error messages, on two such machines, although upon rebooting and checking what I had installed one one of them, it appears to have installed. Also on the machine which it did install, there were no migration corruption issues, FWIW.
@xb70 I manually downloaded and installed it on one Windows 10/64 computer without issue, wrt migration loss of personalization. Another pending....
105.0.4970.13 is now available for download and installation, FWIW, no thread about it yet.
Perhaps this is no longer a concern, but recently Opera updates have been subject to migration corruption issues, wherein upon installing the updated version the user would be faced with a loss of various personalization items, or all of them, bookmarks, tabs, extensions, etc. FWIW, I did install this new version: 104.0.4944.54 and didn't encounter any of that, on two Windows 10/64 computers. On the more sketchy computer, I did have to close and reopen the newly installed browser before it showed my personalization, but that could easily be due to the computer, and both are working fine now, with respect to (wrt) personalization, for me.
The issue seems to be that Opera the browser can only have a sidebar link to a web- based app, as it is a browser, and Signal doesn't support that, rather Signal does have a Windows app, which can be installed, if one has a phone-based account, already. The next question I suppose is how to add a link to a Windows app? But I don't think that Opera does that, allows placing a link to a Windows app, only to web pages, essentially. No? So this thread becomes mute, no? Aside from a popularity measure of Signal vs. other messenger apps that are represented as available to the sidebar.
Hm, what about Google Messages? No idea if that is available as a "web app." Yes, it is! Where is Google Messages then? Not saying that it is anything akin to Signal with respect to privacy, but it does both SMS/MMS and encrypted RCS, allowing RCS with Samsung Messages (assuming both have it enabled), and being compatible with SMS/MMS, it communicates with most devices/open messenger apps, aside from the "user-only" type, like Signal, WhatsApp, Telegram, on and on.
I inquired about if anyone had lost personalization, installing this version. Nothing back. I installed it myself on two Windows 10/64 computers without issue, with respect to (wrt) migration corruption or loss of personalization. On one computer, after the install, reloading Opera at first there did seem to be a loss, and Opera was not working properly, but I closed it and reopened it, and it was fine. My guess is that that computer has issues, and the hiccup wasn't Opera's fault. FWIW, both of these computers are way old, and the one with the initial hiccup is quite slow. Bottom line, this version of Opera installed without loss of personalization or any migration corruption, for me on two Windows computers. I did download manually, FWIW. Only one instance of Opera showed an auto update indication, and I didn't use it (There is a little dot on the O, and over Update & Recovery it says restart to install the latest version, or some such)--I avoided that by clicking on the manually downloaded executable, instead. Those auto update indications are hit and miss in my installations, rarely working properly. I don't trust them.
Awaiting anyone's experience with if this version has any migration problems, or looses personalization for anyone. Please advise. Thank you.
I have installed 104.0.4944.33 on my second Windows 10/64 computer, and it went without loss of personalization. FWIW.
@burnout426 I routinely manually clear all cookies upon shutdown every night wherever Windows tries to hide them--I am aware of three such folders, so not an issue. I was just being way paranoid about Opera's desire to set cookies. My bad.
@leocg Okay, now I understand. It isn't about the download process, just about if I am accepting Opera's cookies for that page! So naturally, I will not have any kind of correspondence in my Opera browser's setting. Thank your for persevering with my misunderstanding. Now I get it. I guess that I am so paranoid about Opera setting cookies or not, that I jumped to the conclusion that that pop-up had something to do with downloading the update/version. It is simply a common page cookie acceptance/or not thing, and has no implication for the download and installation of Opera.
@leocg https://www.opera.com/download If you visit this page, before being allowed to select a version to download, one must get past an Opera pop-up whose contents I copied above, about six posts ago, only after which, one is allowed to proceed to select and download the update/version.
@leocg I have been referring to Opera's pop-up which one must get past to download the new update/version. That is all, not to general website's cookie notices, etc. Yes, I get those, but not from Opera, rather from the site.
@leocg I have never seen that, for general page visits, only for the Opera download page:
https://www.opera.com/download
@leocg I was denied, with "not enough privileges, " so I may have attempted to upload a PDF too large, and the image attempt went, but it was no good.
@burnout426 I cannot upload either a PDF or a pic, sorry. Basically, when one attempts to download from this page: https://www.opera.com/download the first thing which one must do is get past the cookies acceptance pop-up:
Cookies
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Accept cookies Manage cookies
You either click Accept cookies (the default in blue) or Manage cookies (wherein one can not accept them):
Our Use Of Cookies
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Accept selection [Then you accept your selection.]
So my question is what happens to these choices--where can one check up on them, in Opera similar to the place in opera://settings/privacy/consentFlow which shows the four checkbox choices made to install the download.
I am not allowed to upload a Pic/PDF image, apparently.
@burnout426 Yes, that is part of the answer which I was seeking, pertaining to if or where the four things which one must tick off, that is uncheck, when installing a manually downloaded update. Thank you, Burnout426. But what about the cookie setting which one much get past when downloading the update? Can one check if that is in effect too? One must either accept (the apparent default) or not cookies (click it off, if desired), to download. There is opera://settings/cookies but I do not see anything in that which seems to correspond to one's acceptance of them or rejection as accepted in order to download.