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@burnout426 said in Is there any way of extracting a password from an email account in Opera Mail?:

If you can still send messages in Opera Mail, you can log the outgoing connection while sending a test message.

Then, in the log file, the password will be exposed. If it's not in plain text, it'll be in base64 that you can decode.

decode.html:

<script>
    alert(atob("bXlwYXNzd29yZA=="));
</script>

You'd replace the base64 data there with what you get from the log file, save and open decode.html in your browser.

Interesting! Can I send a message to myself though? Remember I have no problem receiving and sending email on this account with Opera Mail.

@burnout426
They never asked for a recovery email address. I know that is common today. But it means you have to open email addresses in pairs which is a hassle.
The search is on for a new email address!

@burnout426
Some people claim it does but the trial version doesn't seem to work at all. Some trial. Guess they know some people will just download it, sandbox it and use it in perpetuity.

@burnout426
Well this one asks for something I ain't got anymore so I'm out of luck. I don't have either the password or the answer to the security question. Next time I write everything down right away. No exceptions. I've had this account for years and didn't realize I was skating on thin ice.
If anyone has recommendations for an email provider that doesn't require 2FA let me know. (I'll delete this post right after finding one so it doesn't help criminals.)

@leocg
I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say "tool". Do you mean the Opera Password Recovery program? Or the process of resetting a password?

The email company requires an answer to a security question which I failed to make note of when I set it months or years ago. Without that I can't seem to do anything.

I know there is a program that could possibly harvest the password (Opera Password Recovery) but it's $27 and I'm on a meager budget.

@leocg
Yes of course. But they, as with everyone else, require the previous password which Opera Mail hides from its user, to reset the password. I don't have another email set up with that account since they didn't require it and don't even allow for it. So you see my predicament.

And for the final nail in my coffin, they are not allowing any new email accounts.

Does anyone know of a way of getting an email without a phone number that accepts 2 factor authentication codes? Don't have a cell phone account now. Everyone seems to be tightening their security so much. What's strange with this is anyone can buy a used phone for cash then get a prepaid card at a convenience store for cash so it can be totally anonymous.

@leocg
No because they ask for the previous password to reset it to a new one. Otherwise anyone could do that.

@rh99 Hey, if I could export the mail settings/passwords to another email program that would be fine as well. So I found the passwords in Wand.dat in OperaMail/Profile. You can open it with Notepad/text based programs easily but it's just gibberish. Looks like text that has been put in a blender. Somehow Opera uses that file. I guess that's their way of encryption. Pretty effective!

I'm really in a jam and don't want to lose my email account. I thought I had saved my last password change but didn't. I can use it now fine but if Opera Mail goes down I'm dead. Surely it's somewhere in there, right? But where? I've been using the account for years without any issue too! Where is it buried???

Not sure what the point of tab islands are since we can group tabs in Opera Windows. Maybe it's so we only have one instance of Opera running. Most people work better with less tabs open. Of course sometimes people need a lot so I guess that's what it's for. Strange how nobody else thought of this yet.

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

There's no separate mail client. It's part of the browser.

OK.

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@rh99 With your free Vivaldi account, you also get a mail account with IMAP support and 5GB or storage. There's also a webmail for it at https://webmail.vivaldi.net/.

I can't even get my Vivaldi browser to recognize my Vivaldi email account! I'm waiting to hear back from them about that.

If you're not against Google/Gmail, it handles spam wonderfully and has IMAP support. It also learns from what you add/remove from the IMAP Spam folder. And, there are course filters you can specific on the server at mail.google.com.

I have to use Google/Gmail unfortunately. Opera doesn't seem to work with Yahoo and Google mail. So that would be nice to get those working seamlessly again. Good to hear. I'll have to try Thunderbird again. Hopefully the latest version works with Win7. When are companies going to realize there are a lot of people that choose to use Win7 over 10/11? Maybe 12 will give more user control.

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

I'm trying it and the first thing I noticed was that the font was a little small.

If you're talking about Sylpheed, goto configuration -> common preferences -> display. You can set font and size.

Yes I did that right away. Nothing changed. The page is still very small. I think the default is 10 and I changed it to 14. Totally the same. Not a thing changed. Maybe that's for the outgoing font of email.

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@burnout426
Regarding Vivaldi's mail client: Is there any way of getting it to work with Windows 7?

No. It uses Chromium like the browser part, so Win7 and 8.1 support have been discontinued just like in other Chromium-based browsers. You'd have to use an older build and the be stuck at that older build.

Any idea where these are? I found this for the browser but where are the previous builds of the mail client? And which one is Win7 compatible?

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@rh99 Hmm, as long as you have "Show spam" unchecked for "All Messages/Unread" and "All Messages/Received", spam shouldn't show in them.

What mail provider are you using?
I don't see any place in Opera that mentions "Show spam" but I did right click each account in the left column, Customize, to see which box is checked. I unchecked Spam so we'll see how that works. Then I'll cross check that with the webmail account later to see. I did this yesterday and I think it worked.

As for my providers there's a bunch. VFEMail, GMX, Yandex, Hotmail are a few. I'm getting spammed at GMX, Hotmail and Yandex. Its much better now though. I'm getting faster at blacklisting domains but its really a shame email providers don't make it a lot easier to just block a domain instead of an individual address which is quite useless as they can change that day to day if they control the domain. The blocking should work through IMAP. Logging into your webmail account is so tedious and time wasting. Clearly they are not addressing spam seriously even though they claim they are.

@burnout426
Regarding Vivaldi's mail client: Is there any way of getting it to work with Windows 7?

@burnout426 Have you found anything with it that is preferable to Thunderbird? I'm just wondering where most people find Thunderbird lacking.

@burnout426
I'm trying it and the first thing I noticed was that the font was a little small. I looked through Help and saw nothing addressing this. Is there a way to set the minimum font?

@burnout426 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

@rh99 said in Opera Mail: How to stop Spam from ending up in my Unread box?:

And another thing that I don't understand under Properties of the mail account/IMAP:
When you first bring up this page/window its blank in the Sent, Trash and Spam folder.

This might be due to Special Use where the server (if it supports it) tells Opera what folders are for spam, sent, and trash etc. Opera might poll the server in that case to see what they are and then populate the drop-down. While Opera is closed, you can disable it in IncomingN.txt in the mail folder (where N is the number for the account as seen in accounts.ini). Then, you can set the special folders yourself and see if the drop-downs behave more like you'd expect.

Thank you very much. This is starting to make sense.