Posts made by Nordlys

The issue seems better today, with none of my tabs amassing vast amounts of RAM. No Opera client update (been on 109.0.5097.68 for a while).

Not sure if YouTube changed some code on their end, which may also have been the source of the issue.

@leocg Did you get around to testing it with the posted video? It seems to start happening after the chat fills up a bit. Maybe a minute or two in.

I have tried it with no extensions, and with browser.js enabled and disabled. I have disabled the "Opening animation on start page" flag and enabled the "Show memory usage in hovercards." flag, but otherwise it's default.

I also tried disabling Aria, but I don't think my custom settings should have much effect on the issue. The main thing is that this was not an issue a few browser versions back on the same machine and browser setup, but has persisted a month or two now without being fixed. It makes it impossible to have chat open for more than a minute.

@leocg You're saying on a normal video, but did you try a live video with fast chat?

I can say this video does it for me (just a popular streamer for reference, not what I usually watch):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuImMCnkGIw

Opening the video it starts at about ~300 MB, but it quickly creeps up to ~1-2 GB and beyond after some moments in the foreground. While taking screenshots and pasting to a different application, I noticed the memory usage falls down to ~5-600 MB in the background, but it restores its previous usage as I tab back. Closing chat (with the big 'X') stops the tab from accumulating memory, and it will drop to normal levels after a few moments. Reopening the chat starts accumulating memory junk again.

I usually have "dark theme" (top right dots) and "cinema/theatre mode" on (press 't'), as well as "live chat" (not "top chat"). However, the normal "default view" and "top chat" also seemed to be troublesome. It may however take some time to start collecting junk in RAM, and I think I had one instance where I had issues identifying the tab in task manager at all (after which I closed the tab and made a new one, and the new tab was easy to identify again).

I run Windows 10, and I have about 30 other tabs open (mostly news, shops, etc. taking up ~5-30 MB RAM each).

Recently, watching Youtube streams has been terrible on Opera One.

With chat closed it works fine, but if chat is open Task Manager shows that RAM usage for that tab increases by ~50 MB per second without stopping until the tab crashes (out of memory). After only a few seconds, the stream starts struggling hard. CPU usage also increases 5-10x, but that's normal. Closing the chat (i.e. not the tab) stabilizes the tab, but it does not dump memory usage for a while.

Without chat enabled, the memory usage stays low and stable, correctly flushing video data rapidly from the RAM. So this only applies to chat, and it's probably worse on very active chats (streams with 5k+ live viewers) than slow chats.

Currently on Opera One 109.0.5097.59, but this has been going on for a few recent releases (maybe after 108.x or 109.x). This was not an issue a month or two back, running on the same system as today.

Live running video streams (Twitch and Youtube) crash when I reopen a recently closed tab.

The browser will do a 'screen flash' as if it just crashed and restored itself, interrupting any live streams that are playing.

It's not consistent in when it happens, only happening sometimes after prolonged use, and usually not twice in a row. Which could indicate an issue with the memory being used for the stream and having to find a closed tab. I would still say it happens very often. Youtube streams will usually rebuffer, while Twitch stream goes to an error message telling you to refresh the player. Other content (text, images, etc.) in any tabs stay loaded (uninterrupted).

Currently on Opera One 109.0.5097.35 on Windows 10, and this has been an issue that annoyed me since at least 108.x. I could not find it through searching the forums, so sorry if I missed a post about it.

To reproduce:

1. Have a live stream (or several) running in their own tabs.
2. Go to a website in a second tab.
3. Close the second tab and reopen it. Crash is inconsistent.

@oythun Ah, that seems to be the cause! I've had two tabs pinned for a while, and didn't think to try unpinning them.

So it seems that every pinned tab makes the sound control act on one tab back for each of them.

@leocg The recovery option fixes the issue initially, but after readjusting settings (by manually doing it through Opera) and restarting the browser it bugs out again (without any extensions enabled). Not sure exactly what causes it. Too much of a hassle for me to reset everything again to locate the issue though.

I just did: Recover > Sound control worked (without restarting browser) > Adjusted my settings and cookies/logins > Restarted browser (tabs disappeared) > Went through the "first time setup" wizard > Reopened my tabs from saved folder > Then sound control was bugged again when I tried using it

My extensions were enabled at some point in between all of that, but disabling them doesn't work now.

It might be something Opera updates on restart, perhaps with certain nonstandard settings set. Regular tabs are affected. It works correctly in private tabs with the same settings and my usual extensions enabled.

Browserjs is also jank in this version, and has to be disabled on restart for certain sites to function.

It's a bug that has been in the two latest stable versions (.6 and .15). The controller controls the tab two spaces in front of it. Unless it's the first tab, which will work properly:
https://forums.opera.com/topic/61824/clicking-on-tab-to-mute-mutes-other-tabs-instead/2?_=1682979301819

@editorkos Thanks! (And also to the original poster.) That works. Didn't find that thread when searching the forums.

Too bad I've lost all my site settings now that I messed around with it.

@leocg Doesn't work here. Same error.

Did it work for you? Are you on 98.0.4759.15 on Win10?

Might have already had a report, but due to the lack of response I made a report on this ref. BS-54558.

No one replying whether it's working or not for them, but I submitted a bug report ref. BS-54561. Twitch is a big streaming site. I don't know the specifics of what causes it, but I would assume it's JavaScript-related by the nature of it. Unless it's only happening for me.

Well, I didn't use this speed dial search before, but I can confirm that it is behaving like you're posting. There is no paste functionality in that field on Win10 98.0.4759.15.

There are also a bunch of weird issues that seemed to appear in 98.0.4759.6, so someone must have broken some core code. I'm almost wondering if they started using AI to write code segments, since that's in the wind these days...

A bit of a rant, but...
In addition to this problem, I've noticed:

• Weird behaviour on certain sites not present in other Chromium browsers.
• Amongst these, Twitch (points and login) does not work on my end, as posted in another thread without having received confirmation from others.
• Tabs sometimes copying the look of neighbouring tab (fixes itself when clicked).
• Tab sound icon controls the tab indexed two tabs in front of the one you click.

Along with some unfixed bugs from earlier versions, it's a weird amount of easily noticeable bugs that are appalling to release in Stable versions of the browser. And having been pointed out, it stays for weeks or more until fixed. I am on the verge of switching my main browser after many years due to the recent negligence at Opera.

Problem:
I use Twitch a lot and have been logged in for a while, but a few days ago I stopped earning points from watching channels. It was at least happening on version 98.0.4759.6 Today, on the latest stable version 98.0.4759.15, I tried logging out and back in, but Twitch wouldn't let me log in again, just displaying:

"Your browser is not currently supported. Please use a recommended browser or learn more here."

It is worth noting that I can also not currently get the "Tell us how you want your cookies"-banner on the site to disappear. Either by saving changes or accepting all cookies, it persists. The site otherwise works: I can view streams, etc.

My settings:

• I have tried deleting all site data related to Twitch.tv, disabled all addons (with related tabs closed), and restarted Opera, but the problem persists.
• I disallow 3rd party cookies in incognito, but not in regular mode.
• Most privacy consent and security settings are off, except "Protect me from malicious sites".
• I delete cookies and site data on exit, but [*.]twitch.tv is on my whitelist.
• It is worth noting that even though Opera/Chromium is not officially supported, I had no issues with both the cookie banner or logging in on Vivaldi, which is also not intrinsically supported.

Seems like I can't edit my previous post, but I wanted to add that as a workaround you can also bind a key to mute/unmute in the setting highlighted here:
opera://settings/keyboardShortcuts?search=Toggle+mute+tab

This currently works in the active tab which means you have to swap tabs to mute, but it can be easier than dealing with the context-menu.

This started happening here as well, so I think it's a bug in the recent update. It doesn't mute all other tabs though. As far as I can tell, the tab mute button controls the tab (on/off) that is two tabs before it.

Running 98.0.4759.6 on Win10.

A workaround is to right click the tab and selecting mute/unmute, but it's an annoying bug so it should be a prioritized fix.

@burnout426 Sent a report with reference BS-50998.

The required attachment field seems a bit unnecessary (general feedback).

Preface:
This is a bug that appeared a few versions back, but I didn't bother making an account here for it back when it first started happening. I am using Opera stable for Windows 10.

Issue:
When starting a download, Opera will normally make the "Downloads pin" visible (right side of pinned Extensions). This makes it easy to open the files, the destination folder or the Downloads tab with a click. However, when a download is manually cancelled this pin no longer appears. Not even on the next download.

I'd call it mildly annoying, but it does interrupt me quite a lot since I am used to managing and clearing downloads regularly from this pin.

Expected behaviour
The Downloads pin should appear even if a download was cancelled. Alternatively, the cancelled download should not be stored in history, and the pin should appear on the next download instead.

How to reproduce:
For the sake of this issue, I always select where to store downloads ('opera://settings/downloads' > "Ask where to save each file before downloading"). I also do not have an integrated PDF-reader in Opera.

1. Typically, I will google something and accidentally click a link to a PDF. But initiating any download will work.
2. Opera asks me where to save it, and I cancel the download instead.
3. Whenever I download anything else after this, the Downloads pin will not appear until the Download history is cleared (by opening the tab and clearing it).

@brigittedoris The standard scrollbar style is a grey bar on a light grey track in Win10. In Win11 the bar is even smaller by default. Since most sites are light coloured, there's low contrast from the site to the bar, which can be hard to discern if Opera is not at the edge of the screen. In addition, some sites may use custom CSS (website style) to change or recolour the scrollbar.

A couple of things you can try is:

• Enforce a different style in your browser. E.g. dark style will make the website's main colour dark, while the bar remains light. Windows theme changes can also carry over.
• Use an addon/extension that changes the style and colour of the scrollbar.

@cratte Mine uses a lot less. It depends on what you store there.

• If you have open video or media tabs, the browser will store more data in your RAM (open streams) and possibly also in your local storage (stored media files or sections).
• You can limit the amount of cookies and data that is stored if you set Opera to delete it when you exit at: 'opera://settings/cookies'
• If you're storing website data on a drive with large file allocation sizes, smaller files will be bloated. I.e. each 0 b file become from 4 kb (normal drive setting) up to 2 MB+ (bad setting for browser drives).
• You could try to clear browsing data and use the Advanced option under 'opera://settings/clearBrowserData' to do a more thorough data clear. Note that this will make websites forget you, so you might have to log in again. If Opera is unable to clear this data for some reason, you can manually clear it at: '%LocalAppData%\Opera Software\Opera Stable\Cache' (Windows).