Where's recently closed pages now?

  • It has just updated from v29 to 30.0.1835.18 and the menu with a list of recently closed pages has gone. Where is it now?

  • Tab menu.

  • what is tab menu?

  • Hi @antonkukoba, this is the menu in the top right corner, as shown below

    If you want, you can bring back the "Recent Tabs" in the Opera's menu: go to the opera:flags#tab-menu-with-recent-tabs, select "Disabled" from the drop-down, and restart the Opera ;-)

  • Thank you

  • Thank you, I had the same doubt.

  • Is there a way to show "all" closed tabs, as it was until now?

  • Is there a way to show "all" closed tabs, as it was until now?

    Nope.

  • Is there a way to show "all" closed tabs, as it was until now?

    History (now on the start page) provides an easy way to see even older tabs.

  • Is there a way to show "all" closed tabs, as it was until now?

    History (now on the start page) provides an easy way to see even older tabs.

    This obviously isn't the same thing, I'd have to filter through a ton of history entries. For example, a lot of history from a single tab. Or the tab I closed might have been opened for so long that the actual act of visiting the page I want to recover is deep down in the history.

    Bring back the full closed tabs list!

    Is this just so you can borrow more code from Chromium (limited closed tabs list) without doing any work?

  • Is there a way to show "all" closed tabs, as it was until now?
    

    History (now on the start page) provides an easy way to see even older tabs.

    This obviously isn't the same thing, I'd have to filter through a ton of history entries. For example, a lot of history from a single tab. Or the tab I closed might have been opened for so long that the actual act of visiting the page I want to recover is deep down in the history.
    Bring back the full closed tabs list!
    Is this just so you can borrow more code from Chromium (limited closed tabs list) without doing any work?

    I highly doubt they made the change 'to borrow code from chromium'. They did it because now that there's a tab menu, it makes sense from a UI perspective to have recently closed tabs there, but having the tab menu show a list of all closed tabs wouldn't really work well because it would result in a huge list that would push the 'open tabs' part of the tab menu really far down...

    That said, I'd not be opposed for there to be some way to view all closed tabs, but I do think for the tab menu ui in particular showing recent closed tabs makes most sense.

    Perhaps they could add a list of all closed tabs to the tabs webui page under 'this pc'? That could be pretty cool, because then you'd be able to search through them with ctrl + f, would be much nicer than the current list of all closed tabs imo.

  • Thanks for this @l33t4opera.

  • The new method is far worse. Before I could just move the mouse swiftly to the top left, click the opera icon and go down to the recently closed tabs menu. Now I have to manoeuvre more carefully as the new menu is located right next to the minimize icon. Terrible UI decision, hope it gets reverted back.

  • Full recently closed tabs was one of the great features of Opera, I don't really understand this huge regression in functionality.

    "wouldn't really work well because it would result in a huge list that would push the 'open tabs' part of the tab menu really far down..."

    Not necessarily, even before there was a [< More] button, they can add that I guess.

    And from a broader perspective ... imho tab grouping was far better solution to too many tabs than this menu (can't think of any other reason why would someone use it), so this menu could have been reserved for recently closed as it was before and worked really well.

  • Full recently closed tabs was one of the great features of Opera, I don't really understand this huge regression in functionality.

    They say you can use history as a complement of recent closed tabs.

  • Full recently closed tabs was one of the great features of Opera, I don't really understand this huge regression in functionality.

    They say you can use history as a complement of recent closed tabs.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Between this and the sudden crashing I'm getting when trying to access Paypal, I think I'll switch to Firefox til they sort it out.

  • How do you remove the "Tab Manager" icon from the browser. It serves no purpose to me other than to take up space and piss me off.

    "When modifying existing UI, never add elements without giving the user the option to remove them" - One of the Principals of UX.

    This can also be summed up with "People don't like change", "You can't please everyone, so don't force your changes on them", and "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

  • @jaredcheeda: Have you tried to get used to it?

  • That said, I'd not be opposed for there to be some way to view all closed tabs, but I do think for the tab menu ui in particular showing recent closed tabs makes most sense.
    Perhaps they could add a list of all closed tabs to the tabs webui page under 'this pc'? That could be pretty cool, because then you'd be able to search through them with ctrl + f, would be much nicer than the current list of all closed tabs imo.

    Ok, now what I think... That'd be too far away too many steps and waiting for the webui to load.

    This is supposed to be a quick action, otherwise I could waste time typing in the address field or accessing the history to search for that page already.

    What I want in my everyday web browsing: a simple full list, easily accessible, fast and non-frustrating.

    What Opera gives now: cut list, complicated and frustrating if the tab you were looking for is just 10+ closed tabs away (you won't see it in the list then the hunt begins). Workaround is to take additional steps, wait for a history page to load and hunt the page in thousands of entries that are ordered by last accessed instead of last closed. Or disabling a flag that'll be removed completely in the next version, plus the act of disabling the flag isn't even monitored by Opera anonymous usage statistics they were supposed to monitor to improve the users' experience...

    I've always listed this simple function as an Opera differential over Chrome when people asked on the subject, I used it and it's in fact a reason I can't stand Chrome, and now it's simply gone...

  • "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
    This is probably the most important rule in ergonomics.

    And not only there is a "fix", but it causes a loss of usability: you can't search for more than a few recently closed per window, and it brings nothing new in return (same number of clicks to get to it, and general history was already accessible).

    This may be the stupidest evolution I've seen in software interface evolution since Windows 8 start button removal.
    It's probably time to switch to Vivaldi, then.

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