Why notes are not present in the new version of opera
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lem729 last edited by
I agree with @blackbird71 that the usage statistics may well have been of dubious value/flawed. As he notes there was a "debacle" over Opera not providing for enough for bookmarks, based upon the alleged usage statistic (somewhat amusing) that claimed people didn't use them. Well, as it turned out, people did, and wanted the feature implemented in a better fashion. Now I would say the same thing for Notes, maybe not as much use as bookmarks, but plenty of use, and a good feature that Opera Presto had. Now if we had an adequate extension like Firefox's Scrapbook (that didn't require logins, and notes in the cloud, which have the drawback of being contra-privacy), then fine. The extension would be sufficient, but we don't have it. So it's a feature, probably not that hard to replicate, that Opera might want to consider getting back for Opera Blink. Simple Notes, @lando742, looks too primitive. No folders. I forgot to mention that creating folders in the Notes feature, is important, because it's easier to store and organize items them. Also, this Simple Notes doesn't seem to have the feature where if you click on your note, right click? (or at least somewhere in the note) you are back on the web page. I tried to download it to test, and the download failed. Not sure why. Maybe it hasn't been updated for the latest version of Opera.
Right now, when I want to take a note, I copy the webpage to Firefox, and make the note in Scrapbook. That's not the best situation.
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lando242 last edited by
Well, you shot yourself in the foot then. No point complaining about not getting what you use most when you purposely hid your usage from the dev team. Gotta pick one of the other. Complaining about it here doesn't do any good either. The devs don't hang out here much. Its muct mroe productive to make comments in the blog posts announcing a new release.
I tried to download it to test
I said in my post its for version 29 and above of Opera. Are you using 29 or 28? Either way, if there isn't something out there that fits your needs feel free to make one or pay someone to hammer one out for you.
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lem729 last edited by
Well, you shot yourself in the foot then. No point complaining about not getting what you use most when you purposely hid your usage from the dev team. Gotta pick one of the other. Complaining about it here doesn't do any good either. The devs don't hang out here much. Its muct mroe productive to make comments in the blog posts announcing a new release.
If Opera's methodology for assessing usage was fundamentally flawed, based on what they did to assess the usage, it's Opera that missed the boat there, not the public. Look, let's make an analogy to public opinion polls. If the pollster can't get people to answer the phone in a high enough percentage, and is way off base on whom the pollster predicts will win the election, it's silly to blame people who would not answer the phone. "Everyone" will rightly blame the pollster, who if he wants to stay in business, better come up with a methodology to adequately predict the election. It's his problem, his responsibility to accurately divine voter intent. The same for a business in determining product usage and need, because it will only stay in business if it is able to do that.
I tried to download it to test
I said in my post its for version 29 and above of Opera. Are you using 29 or 28? Either way, if there isn't something out there that fits your needs feel free to make one or pay someone to hammer one out for you.
I missed what you said. I'm using version 28. But as I did say, I went to the website, and Simple Notes had -- based what I saw there -- all the appearance of not meeting my needs -- no folders, no seeming ability to click on the note and call up the website.
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A Former User last edited by admin
I have been using Webnotes available here for maybe a year, and it comes pretty close to the old notes feature. No context menu entry but otherwise it comes pretty close to O12 notes, closer than any extension I have seen. Here's a thread with more info.
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lem729 last edited by
It's not listed in the Opera add-ons, extensions,
https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/?ref=menu
or in the Chrome store. It doesn't look like it's been worked on in almost 1 and 1/2 years. It may or may not work with future updates of Opera.
I wouldn't take a file from a site like that. For me, it's got to be on either the Opera site, or the Chrome site, with the modest comfort of whatever reviews are required to get there, and to be able to read a lot of customer reviews.
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blackbird71 last edited byWell, you shot yourself in the foot then. No point complaining about not getting what you use most when you purposely hid your usage from the dev team. Gotta pick one of the other. Complaining about it here doesn't do any good either. ...
Except that at no time do I ever recall Opera informing its browser users that the results of the usage-stat feedback function would be the basis for a forthcoming browser redesign or used as the basis for the omission of certain functionality in a future browser. There was no "gotta pick one of the other" involved if no such explanation was provided for browsing information being phoned home. Moreover, forcing users to choose between enforcing their privacy as users or seeing their needed features evaporate from a new browser design that wasn't even disclosed at the time of the "choice" seems a rather bizarre way to try to accumulate objective data about user needs.
I do agree that there isn't any point complaining about it here. But, as I noted earlier, it is wise to keep in mind that the usage-stats process was neither fully objective nor comprehensive, when one chooses to make arguments regarding why certain features were not included in the new browser or whether they truly "ought" to have been excluded and why.
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A Former User last edited by
They were removed because very few people used them so it wasn't worth re-adding to the new build. That said, there are extensions that can restore similar features to the browser if you choose to install them.
Ok so was there even someone who used old Opera? Because new Opera dont have any features so nobody used the old one? Just kidding but seriously why old Opera had so many features if nobody used them?
Extensions are good thing but they cant replace most of the integrated features. Lots of extensions are just useless trash. Why do we have software in the first place? We could have just core and all features will be extensions... good idea but nobody have time/skill to build software this way. People need working software not build it yourself lego. -
sircasey81 last edited by
After digging through several threads like this one, I finally found an extension called TaggingNotes that has the older Opera Notes right-click context menu functionality:
https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/taggingnotes/?display=en&hidemessage=1Just click the tag that says "Use to paste" and that note is available in the right-click context menu to paste into web page fields.
Bonus points: TaggingNotes has an import from notes.adr tool!
Also available in the Chrome store for Chrome under the same name.
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sircasey81 last edited by
Also found this one, a little more like the classic Opera Notes:
https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/v7-notes/?display=en -
czakolo last edited by
not popular? maybe people chose option to not share stats...
anyway, I have tried all of available extensions and they all crap, period. Simple, no synchronization with opera account. So far, nothing can replace original Opera Notes and Sessions. -
lando242 last edited by
Sessions
Session Buddy for Chrome runs in Opera with the 'Download Chrome Extension". It is by far the best session manager I have ever seen. Completely blows away the old Opera 12 session system. No contest at all.
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torla last edited by
Move to new Opera. The first thing that i need in new one its notes from 12.17.
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lando242 last edited by
Check out V7 Notes:
https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/v7-notes/?display=en
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browzer1 last edited by
I use, on occasion, five Browsers. Opera, Firefox, IE, Google and Vivaldi.
I realized long ago, that five separate note applications was ridiculous. (Four actually. There is nothing for IE).
So in the event that I want to copy something to a note (depending on the browser), I simply copy the note an OpenOffice text document.
Yes it's a bit more work, but it works for me. In my case, I use notes very rarely.
There's dozens of system note taking applications out there. Pick one you like.
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uninetgranada last edited by
I still use Opera JUST because of its notes. Pity 12.17 is sometimes asking for upgrades and Link is not used anymore.
Does anyone know any solution (now I would not mind using another browser
) where notes are integrated in the browser and are synced to the cloud?Signed by an Opera fan for over 15 years (and I had an Internet cafe where I gave great publicity of Opera back in the times)
