Full url in Opera 17. Any chances?
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missingno last edited by
Originally posted by Krake:
Chropera. It's the combination of the two words: Chrome and Opera.
Are you sure? Also, if you prefer keeping the big O, Opium could be the combination of Opera and Chromium. Of course that makes die hard fans (both!) of new Opera sad, so they will call you names (troll) or trying to correct you, when you just need to differentiate between Opera (Presto) and the new thing.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by missingno:
Also, if you prefer keeping the big O, Opium could be the combination of Opera and Chromium. Of course that makes die hard fans (both!) of new Opera sad, so they will call you names (troll) or trying to correct you, when you just need to differentiate between Opera (Presto) and the new thing.
I don't like 'Opium'. It reminds me of a narcotic drug which overdosed can not only ruin your browsing experience but also your health whereas Chropera reminds me of the Trinity. Google the Holy Spirit, Chrome the Father and Opera the Son.
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frenzie last edited by
Opium has a Marxist undertone. Facebook is the opium of the masses, or something like that. Anyway, I too prefer Chropera.
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missingno last edited by
Well, Chropera always reminds me of crap. But maybe it is the "crop era" where all features are cropped out.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by missingno:
Well, Chropera always reminds me of crap.
I have the same problem, but only when I see the actual program.
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j7nj7n last edited by
Facebook is the opium of the masses, or something like that.
I find that the Web 2.0, or on whichever version we are now already, is quite like a drug. It entices people with a possibility to accomplish tasks quicker without learning and setting software on their system, only to have less speed and control later on. Instead, they become an instrument in the hands of big corporations. The new product is a window to this Web, and can do little as a standalone program.
I also find that Opium
has a nice ring to it as a word. And it describes exactly what the new product is: it's for the masses. -
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iland last edited by
to stay on the topic: do we have a show full option now? Yes or No? (running on Opera 19)
I'm using Opera since Y2K (was it version 3 or 5 back then?), and have to say I always loved the ability to tweak my browser experience to my needs.Missing features now:
- position addressbar on the bottom
- Vimperator (by Blazeix)
- And full url in addressbar. that is YES with all the params and https:// .Still have to rely on O 12 today. But O 19 is promising. Keep up the good work.
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tielenaar last edited by
Trying Firefox now. It's actually not that bad. It has many of the features that Opera refuses to reintroduce.
- Proper keyword searching in url bar (i can't delete the Y for Yahoo and assign it to Youtube in Opera)
- Showing full url's including http(s)
- A secure password manager with a master password
- Lots and lots of settings and if not available there's an addon for it
- Good tab history with undo close tab
- Tab groups (sort of like what tab stacking used to be)
- A nice syncing service.
And more.. Much more. It's also stable and fast enough.
It is these little things that make a browser worth using. As a power user, Opera has in my opinion completely lost track of what they used to find important. All the answers I keep finding sound to me like: "Not enough people were using it, we don't care, we do what we want and don't listen to you, the community is pointless so we're shutting it down, pointless features that other browsers already have will be priority, desktop is dead", etc..
I don't have the feeling that Opera will be back to the level it used to be before version 25, so until then, as much as it saddens me after 8 years of die-hardness, I will have to look for quality elsewhere.
Please keep us up to date with road maps and such, I really WANT to go back to Opera, it just sucks at the moment. -
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iland last edited by
Thanks for pointing me out the good news LeoCG, I must have missed it whilst scanning the sometimes funny thread.
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j7nj7n last edited by
I didn't believe it was possible in Firefox. They have hidden the option browser.urlbar.trimURLs deep inside about:config
With it as 'true' it the URL display looks confusing. Normal http is hidden, but https and ftp are displayed, making the address much longer and having a different scheme.
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thefraj last edited by
First post here when I found this topic - I'm a web dev and new to Opera and have now adopted it since it is the ONLY browser with it's salt: Chrome now barely qualifies as a real browser since it cannot run all javascript environments correctly, and often the renderer freaks out at pretty basic stuff, Firefox is excellent except for memory leaks and ridiculous consumption of resources and memory. Internet Explorer - well, it historically has never been a real browser, but now is a lot better - not as good as Firefox, but certainly better than Chrome in many aspects.
Anyhoo, so Opera is without doubt the best browser at this point. But this querystring business actually represents a massive security flaw I wanted to make you aware of, and I was dismayed to read how callously some devs dismissed this, so I hope here to detail an attack vector I might use and how this querystring actually puts Opera users at risk and needs resolving ASAP.
- Attack Vector
I may have a search page on a website (or some sort of input that accepts a querystring and renders out my input as (for instance!) you searched for ...) which - if not sensitised correctly, allows me to inject an iframe using XSS like so:
mysite.com/search?q=<iframe src= ... ...
(obviously would need encoding in most cases to succeed).
So suppose my new section of this page is styled to look exactly like the website the user /believes/ they are on - I could render the same markup as their login page (except it now points to a URL I can control - so I will log them in, but secretly keep a copy of the details used as a man-in-the-middle attack here)
In Opera, as a user I would have no way of knowing since I cannot even see the querystring! Even though I'm security concious and would immediately think "What the...?" at the URL, now I will not, and will quietly hand over my login details, which I would not have done had I been using any other browser.
This is just one scenario, but I can think of MANY more. I'm saying this because firstly I believe Opera to be the best browser at the moment -and this is my one and only bug-bear so far, that I would go as far as to say represents a security risk to the end user, by obfuscating the true URL, thereby allowing greater prospects for social engineering in creating XSS attacks.
Would appreciate this being fixed, so I can confidently say "Best browser" without caveat!
Thanks
thefraj
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jm4444 last edited by admin
I haven't read thru this entire string, but if the OP wants to see what I see for this page:
http://forums.opera.com/topic/72/full-url-in-opera-17-any-chances
then you need to enable advanced/power user settings (there's a discussion on that somewhere in this forum but I don't have time to look) and check
"Show full URL in combined search and address bar"
I don't remember which version of Opera first allowed that-- could be later than 17. I'm now on v 24, but have had it checked for a long while.
