Opera Mail- Is there a way to create message rules/filters?
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doverapothecary last edited by
Hi,
I've just installed Opera Mail on my Windows 7 computer and I am trying
to set up "rules" for the incoming mail so that I can divert unwanted
messages straight to the trashI've tried to do this with "Labels" but there is no (obvious) way to treat
spam messages... the Labels just flag the messages but don't remove them
from my InboxDid I miss something?
thanks
Mike
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
There is no way to create a filter that sends a message directly to the trash.
I've tried to do this with "Labels" but there is no (obvious) way to treat
spam messages..Have you tried enabling the spam filter?
the Labels just flag the messages but don't remove them
from my InboxRight click on the label > Properties > Options > Check "hide these messages from other views"
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doverapothecary last edited by
thanks for the reply Leocg,
I have the spam filter enabled, but it doesn't do anything as far as I can see...maybe it is filtering
spam at a broader level, but I can't set it to weed out specific sendersIf I could set the spam rules myself, it might work
Developers? having the ability to route emails to specific destinations is VERY handy, especially in a
small business... Outlook Express had it, Thunderbird has it....why not Opera MailThe labels are a weak substitute and doesn't reduce inbox clutter the way that directed routing does (IMO)
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doverapothecary last edited by
It is, but I still have to individually mark each email as junk, then move them to the junk folder
I really want this to happen automatically...likewise, if I could sort my incoming emails by the sender
and organize them in individual sub-folders, it would be very helpful, more like what I'm used to with
my other email program
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
It is, but I still have to individually mark each email as junk, then move them to the junk folder
It is disabled or it is enabled? If it's disable, your spam filter will not work and the job will be done by the server's spam filter only.
Also, if you have "learn from labeled messages" enabled, the filter will take a while to learn what to mark as spam.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
Note that Opera might show spam by default in other views. If you click the "settings for this view" icon on the message list toolbar for each view (except for the spam view) and uncheck "show spam", you should only see messages that are marked as spam in "All Messages/Spam".
You are using IMAP, correct? If so, it is indeed best to disable the spam filter for the IMAP account, set up the spam folder on the "IMAP" tab in the account's properties and let the server hand the spam where you set filters up in the webmail or config page. Some servers support learning when you add/remove a messages from the spam IMAP folder, which you can do by marking a message as spam or not spam when you have the IMAP spam folder set up in Opera.
If the IMAP server doesn't support any spam filtering/learning, then you can keep Opera's spam filter enabled for the IMAP account. But, as said, each time you mark a message as spam, Opera will learn based on the words in the message. Then, you have to go into "All Messages/Spam" and mark the false positives as not spam. After a while, Opera will be trained. If you don't want Opera to learn at all, turn off "learn from labeled messages" in the spam filter's properties.
Opera's spam filter also has an internal filter that you can control in "All Messages/Spam's" properties. You can turn this off if you want to rely just on learning for example.
By default the spam filter only scans incoming messages. You can uncheck "only apply rules for new messages" in the spam view's properties.
Not that Opera's searching and its spam filter can only scan the parts of the message that are downloaded. By default, Opera only downloads the headers for a messages. So, that's all that's scanned until you open the message and the body and attachments get fetched. Using low-bandwidth mode or "do not download attachments" can limit what's downloaded by default (as in, until you right-click and fetch the complete message), so don't use those. The best thing to do is to set "make all messages available offline" on the "Incoming" tab in the account's properties so all messages are in full on your hard drive so Opera can fully search them.
You can also add rules to the spam view itself to catch messages. But, any rules that search something besides the headers of the message will count on the message being fully downloaded or the rules won't match.
To reset the learning of the spam filter (or a label), uncheck "learn from labeled messages" and close out of properties. Then, you can go back in and check it again (if you want learning re-enabled).
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
if I could sort my incoming emails by the sender
and organize them in individual sub-foldersOpera does this automatically for contacts. You can right-click a contact, goto follow/ignore and choose "follow" to create a few for a contact under the "Followed Contacts" access point in the mail panel. That way you can see a contact's message in the mail panel instead of just in the contacts panel. You can also left-click the from header for a message to follow the contact directly.
You can create a label named contacts and add a rule for each of your contacts. Then, you can create a sub-label for each contact under the "contacts" label with a rule for each contact. For each of the individual contact labels, you can set "match messages in" to the "contacts" label to make Opera search for matches faster.
For labels that will contain sent messages, make sure to click "settings for this view" above the message list and check "show sent".
Also, if you click the wrench icon at the top right of Opera, you can switch the mail layout to "list and message below" *temporarily* so Opera shows the list columns. You can then click the column headers to sort by From address if you want.
Just note that with IMAP, labeled messages will remain in the IMAP Inbox folder. What I do in this case is just leave all messages in the IMAP Inbox folder and just let Opera sort them with labels etc. The downside to this is if you use a webmail or a traditional mail client with the account.
Another thing you can do is just turn Opera Mail into a traditional IMAP client. Just drag the you@example.com IMAP folder access point in the mail panel to the top and collapse (or hide by clicking the wrench icon on the mail panel toolbar) the other access points. Then, you'll just have the IMAP folders that are on the server where you just drag and drop messages (or a selection of messages) to/from the IMAP folder you want. You then rely on filters on the server for automatic filtering into IMAP folders. This simplifies Opera Mail greatly and is the best way to do things if you're using Gmail IMAP instead of a regular IMAP server.
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doverapothecary last edited by
Quoted from Burnout426
Note that Opera might show spam by default in other views. If you click the "settings for this view" icon on the message list toolbar for each view (except for the spam view) and uncheck "show spam", you should only see messages that are marked as spam in "All Messages/Spam".
Thanks Burnout426, that is a BIG help, it took a while to find the well-hidden setting, but it reduced the
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doverapothecary last edited by
Quoted from Leocg
**It is disabled or it is enabled? If it's disable, your spam filter will not work and the job will be done by the server's spam filter only.
Also, if you have "learn from labeled messages" enabled, the filter will take a while to learn what to mark as spam.**
Thanks Leocg... my spam filter is on, set to strong filter, but because of the default view setting,
all the spams continued to be present in my inbox... thanks to the explanation by Burnout426 I can
make most of the spam disappear from viewSo, apparently the spam filter doesn't delete the unwanted messages, but you can make them invisible
