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    Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?

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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Because0789 last edited by

      @because0789 You can have multiple windows in different workspaces.

      Imagine that you are planning a trip. You can create a workspace and name it Trip to City A. Inside it you open a window for the hotels, another ones for restaurants, a third one for places to visit and so on

      Or you can have a News workspace and it can contain a window with sports news sources, a second window with economics news, etc

      The idea of workspaces is to allow you focusing on something, work on something without distractions. It's for you to better organize your browsing stuff.

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        A Former User @leocg last edited by

        @leocg

        What are you talking about?

        Workspaces between windows are unrelated.

        If you are in your Travel workspace and open a new window, that new window is not connected to your Travel workspace in any way.

        If you switch workspace in a window, nothing happens in the other windows open.

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        • Because0789
          Because0789 @Guest last edited by

          @vegelund Exactly! If anything just opening new windows to do it is better because at least then you aren't expecting anything special to happen. Workspaces promise things and deliver nothing. Everything that @leocg described can be done by just putting those things in different windows and minimizing them. At least then you know where and when you can access it, unlike the lie of having a workspace exist in 2 different windows and share absolutely nothing. Doesn't even work well as a tab group until that feature rolls out.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

            @vegelund Seems like a bug to me.

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            • A Former User
              A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

              @leocg

              Can you give me a source that explains how I can open new windows inside a Workspace?

              Help article, blog post, anything.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                @vegelund Don't have one now, but having multiple windows in a workspace is what makes sense.

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                  A Former User @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg

                  Well, please find one.

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                    • MarqM
                      MarqM @leocg last edited by

                      @leocg it seems you are mixing up terms here. The "windows" you can open inside workspaces are called "tabs".

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @MarqM last edited by

                        @marqm Nope, was talking about regular, normal windows.

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                        • MarqM
                          MarqM @leocg last edited by

                          @leocg how should that work? You can only define workspaces inside a window. And now you want to open a regular window inside a workspace which is part of every new window you open?

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @MarqM last edited by

                            @marqm Workspaces should include windows and tabs. I always had the impression that it used to work that way, maybe something has changed. Or maybe I misunderstood it since the beginning.

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                              A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                              @leocg said:

                              had the impression that it used to work that way, maybe something has changed.

                              Have you heard of a browser called Opera?

                              Perhaps you could test the functionality we are talking about.

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                              • MarqM
                                MarqM @leocg last edited by MarqM

                                @leocg I have been using workspaces since they were introduced in Opera, when their number was limited to 5 (I think it was). They are and have always been very much the same as the multiple desktop feature in Windows. This was my impression at least and I always used them that way. Just rename "Desktop" to "workspace" and "app" to "tab" and apply it to a browser.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @MarqM last edited by

                                  @marqm Makes sense

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                                    MarqM @leocg last edited by MarqM

                                    @leocg according to my experience, the functionality of workspaces has not changed since they were introduced, therefore I would have never expected to open anything other than tabs inside them. Even in the workspace description here https://forums.opera.com/topic/61763/workspaces/1 no windows are mentioned: "Workspaces are a feature in Opera that lets you organize your tabs into different groups in a dedicated tab strip, like rooms in a house. Each workspace is like a different room, and you can customize them based on your browsing habits."
                                    I really wonder where this phrase "Workspaces contain windows and tabs" may come from.

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                                      A Former User @MarqM last edited by

                                      #gettingmypopcorn 🍿

                                      @leocg said in:

                                      @because0789 It's not an useless phrase, it's the reality, it's how things work. If you don't understand that, workspace probably will never work for you.

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                                      • MarqM
                                        MarqM last edited by

                                        Sorry @leocg , my intention was for sure not to provide the source for the post above.

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                                        • Markus443
                                          Markus443 @Because0789 last edited by

                                          @because0789 said in Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?:

                                          unlike the lie of having a workspace exist in 2 different windows and share absolutely nothing.

                                          they share the same Workspace-names but not the content (tabs). And that's totally confusing. If a workspace is named "test"...ok..thats generic. But if I use "Trip to New York on 02.05.2024" it doesn't make any sense in different windows.

                                          First time I organized 250 tabs on multiple workspaces and expected to switch between them in different windows (5k screen so one browser window is nonsense). After loosing everything an hour later because of this behavior I was ...not that happy.

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                                          • MarqM
                                            MarqM @Markus443 last edited by

                                            @markus443 I do not exactly understand your confusion. Every app I worked with provides the option to open a new page/tab/window/sheet... whatever as a base for a completely new document/project/drawing/model... Nobody would expect that a new page in MSWord would be filled with text when you open it. But when opening a new browser window in Opera some people obviously expect that it automatically shares content from somewhere or is automatically filled with tabs. Why? So in case you would want to start from scratch you would have to delete the shared content first?

                                            However, I agree that the workspace concept has plenty of room for improvement.
                                            My suggestions for additional workspace and windows features would be as a start:

                                            • the option to "open a duplicate window" - containing all tabs from the source window (workspaces are included already anyway)

                                            • "workspace synchronization": sharing all tabs from a workspace of a source window with the same workspace in the target window(s)

                                            • "option to "share single tabs" of the same workspace between different windows (e.g. dropdown menu at the tab with checkboxes for the open windows - tab should be shared with windows 2 and 5 e.g.)

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