<![CDATA[Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?]]>Does anyone else basically find that Workspaces are useless and don't do anything the way you'd want? The behavior with multiple windows and the inability just to open everything in a workspace in a new window is infuriating. The tab grouping feature can't come soon enough because whatever Workspaces were supposed to be I feel like it failed and was just a confusing mess. (In before a mod shows up to tell me the utterly useless phrase "Workspaces contain windows and tabs")

]]>https://forums.opera.com/topic/64905/workspaces-don-t-do-anything-the-way-you-d-wantRSS for NodeMon, 14 Sep 2026 00:58:29 GMTMon, 31 Jul 2023 21:11:31 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:47:20 GMT]]>@marqm said in Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?:

But when opening a new browser window in Opera some people obviously expect that it automatically shares content from somewhere or is automatically filled with tabs. Why?

because there is an existing workspace with that specific name in a new window (like New York trip e.g.). 😉
Why should a new window preserve the workspace (name and icon) from another window but not the content of it? It would be obvious if a new window does not show any existing workspace at all.

@marqm said in Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?:

So in case you would want to start from scratch you would have to delete the shared content first?

yes. If you need a clean one just create a new workspace and delete the old one.
Or just go with fixed workspaces like it`s with pinned tabs. If a workspace is marked as pinned it will be shared between multiple windows. If not it just belongs to this specific window and do not show up in others.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321810https://forums.opera.com/post/321810Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:47:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Mon, 07 Aug 2023 18:43:01 GMT]]>@marqm There already exists something that you can open that doesn't have content already in it, it is a tab or new window. Why would we need another thing that accomplishes the same thing while poorly communicating what exactly it is for? Even after being explained what it is for I still think it is superfluous. Like why would I make a workspace with all that stuff for a specific search if it isn't something I could continue working on elsewhere? At that point I'd have to save the whole workspace on that specific computer as a bookmarks folder, what does the Workspace add to that?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321802https://forums.opera.com/post/321802Mon, 07 Aug 2023 18:43:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Mon, 07 Aug 2023 17:46:04 GMT]]>@markus443 I do not exactly understand your confusion. Every app I worked with provides the option to open a new page/tab/window/sheet... whatever as a base for a completely new document/project/drawing/model... Nobody would expect that a new page in MSWord would be filled with text when you open it. But when opening a new browser window in Opera some people obviously expect that it automatically shares content from somewhere or is automatically filled with tabs. Why? So in case you would want to start from scratch you would have to delete the shared content first?

However, I agree that the workspace concept has plenty of room for improvement.
My suggestions for additional workspace and windows features would be as a start:

  • the option to "open a duplicate window" - containing all tabs from the source window (workspaces are included already anyway)

  • "workspace synchronization": sharing all tabs from a workspace of a source window with the same workspace in the target window(s)

  • "option to "share single tabs" of the same workspace between different windows (e.g. dropdown menu at the tab with checkboxes for the open windows - tab should be shared with windows 2 and 5 e.g.)

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321799https://forums.opera.com/post/321799Mon, 07 Aug 2023 17:46:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Mon, 07 Aug 2023 12:54:53 GMT]]>@because0789 said in Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want?:

unlike the lie of having a workspace exist in 2 different windows and share absolutely nothing.

they share the same Workspace-names but not the content (tabs). And that's totally confusing. If a workspace is named "test"...ok..thats generic. But if I use "Trip to New York on 02.05.2024" it doesn't make any sense in different windows.

First time I organized 250 tabs on multiple workspaces and expected to switch between them in different windows (5k screen so one browser window is nonsense). After loosing everything an hour later because of this behavior I was ...not that happy.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321753https://forums.opera.com/post/321753Mon, 07 Aug 2023 12:54:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:28:43 GMT]]>Sorry @leocg , my intention was for sure not to provide the source for the post above.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321476https://forums.opera.com/post/321476Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:28:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Sat, 05 Aug 2023 10:28:53 GMT]]>#gettingmypopcorn 🍿

@leocg said in:

@because0789 It's not an useless phrase, it's the reality, it's how things work. If you don't understand that, workspace probably will never work for you.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321454https://forums.opera.com/post/321454Sat, 05 Aug 2023 10:28:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Sat, 05 Aug 2023 08:16:50 GMT]]>@leocg according to my experience, the functionality of workspaces has not changed since they were introduced, therefore I would have never expected to open anything other than tabs inside them. Even in the workspace description here https://forums.opera.com/topic/61763/workspaces/1 no windows are mentioned: "Workspaces are a feature in Opera that lets you organize your tabs into different groups in a dedicated tab strip, like rooms in a house. Each workspace is like a different room, and you can customize them based on your browsing habits."
I really wonder where this phrase "Workspaces contain windows and tabs" may come from.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/321440https://forums.opera.com/post/321440Sat, 05 Aug 2023 08:16:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 22:11:24 GMT]]>@marqm Makes sense

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320957https://forums.opera.com/post/320957Tue, 01 Aug 2023 22:11:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 20:42:50 GMT]]>@leocg I have been using workspaces since they were introduced in Opera, when their number was limited to 5 (I think it was). They are and have always been very much the same as the multiple desktop feature in Windows. This was my impression at least and I always used them that way. Just rename "Desktop" to "workspace" and "app" to "tab" and apply it to a browser.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320953https://forums.opera.com/post/320953Tue, 01 Aug 2023 20:42:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 18:24:06 GMT]]>@leocg said:

had the impression that it used to work that way, maybe something has changed.

Have you heard of a browser called Opera?

Perhaps you could test the functionality we are talking about.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320945https://forums.opera.com/post/320945Tue, 01 Aug 2023 18:24:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 18:19:10 GMT]]>@marqm Workspaces should include windows and tabs. I always had the impression that it used to work that way, maybe something has changed. Or maybe I misunderstood it since the beginning.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320942https://forums.opera.com/post/320942Tue, 01 Aug 2023 18:19:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 17:35:31 GMT]]>@leocg how should that work? You can only define workspaces inside a window. And now you want to open a regular window inside a workspace which is part of every new window you open?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320938https://forums.opera.com/post/320938Tue, 01 Aug 2023 17:35:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:52:40 GMT]]>@marqm Nope, was talking about regular, normal windows.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320910https://forums.opera.com/post/320910Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:52:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:45:57 GMT]]>@leocg it seems you are mixing up terms here. The "windows" you can open inside workspaces are called "tabs".

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320909https://forums.opera.com/post/320909Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:45:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:30:13 GMT]]>@leocg

Well, please find one.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320853https://forums.opera.com/post/320853Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:30:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:26:57 GMT]]>@vegelund Don't have one now, but having multiple windows in a workspace is what makes sense.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320852https://forums.opera.com/post/320852Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:26:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:20:33 GMT]]>@leocg

Can you give me a source that explains how I can open new windows inside a Workspace?

Help article, blog post, anything.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320851https://forums.opera.com/post/320851Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:20:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:17:57 GMT]]>@vegelund Seems like a bug to me.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320850https://forums.opera.com/post/320850Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:17:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 04:36:11 GMT]]>@vegelund Exactly! If anything just opening new windows to do it is better because at least then you aren't expecting anything special to happen. Workspaces promise things and deliver nothing. Everything that @leocg described can be done by just putting those things in different windows and minimizing them. At least then you know where and when you can access it, unlike the lie of having a workspace exist in 2 different windows and share absolutely nothing. Doesn't even work well as a tab group until that feature rolls out.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320847https://forums.opera.com/post/320847Tue, 01 Aug 2023 04:36:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:32:25 GMT]]>@leocg

What are you talking about?

Workspaces between windows are unrelated.

If you are in your Travel workspace and open a new window, that new window is not connected to your Travel workspace in any way.

If you switch workspace in a window, nothing happens in the other windows open.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320842https://forums.opera.com/post/320842Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:32:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:07:59 GMT]]>@because0789 You can have multiple windows in different workspaces.

Imagine that you are planning a trip. You can create a workspace and name it Trip to City A. Inside it you open a window for the hotels, another ones for restaurants, a third one for places to visit and so on

Or you can have a News workspace and it can contain a window with sports news sources, a second window with economics news, etc

The idea of workspaces is to allow you focusing on something, work on something without distractions. It's for you to better organize your browsing stuff.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320840https://forums.opera.com/post/320840Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:07:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:55:33 GMT]]>@leocg What is the difference between Workspaces and just having multiple windows?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320838https://forums.opera.com/post/320838Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:55:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Workspaces don't do anything the way you'd want? on Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:10:08 GMT]]>@because0789 It's not an useless phrase, it's the reality, it's how things work. If you don't understand that, workspace probably will never work for you.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/320829https://forums.opera.com/post/320829Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:10:08 GMT