Lost My Opened Tabs
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dermotmoconnor last edited by leocg
@hesperia
I've been using Vivaldi browser on both my machines (Win10 and Linux Mint), and it's great! Many thanks to the poster above who recommended it. The one thing that was driving me around the bend was the implementation of workspace icons (I wanted to keep them like Opera's = vertical on the left side). Happily, this is fixable. A bit tricky / wonky, but quite doable, And I can now customise them, which is actually better than Opera.Here's a vid link to give you a sense:
https://vivaldi.com/blog/how-to/pawel-shows-you-how-to-play-with-workspaces-and-custom-icons-in-vivaldi/BTW, the only site that Vivaldi doesn't open for me is this one.
Odd that, eh?
Anyway, give it a go. I haven't regretted it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)
Quote Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its distinctive features.[16][18] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[19][20]
As of April 2023, Vivaldi has more than 2.4 million active users.
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RPPDLH last edited by
@leocg Not true. There's a long history of this issue when Opera is used on MacBooks going back to February. Workspaces nor tabs are saved making the workspace feature worthless. Basically if you have to close the browser, you start from scratch when you re-open it. If you had 40 tabs open. Sorry, they are lost. And yes, I do have the options set to re-open the previous session of Opera. Thank goodness Brave and other browsers can re-open sessions. I'm losing hope that it will ever be fixed for Opera with MacBooks.
I fail to understand the logic of coming up with new features, such as workspaces and not having them support MacBooks.
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RPPDLH last edited by
@marqm I agree, you provided accurate information for the high frustration we are all experiencing with sessions being lost. I for one will leave Opera. If they can't get this right, what else doesn't work right regarding my security. It does make me wonder. No way did this browser go through any QA with any Macbook.
I'm personally fed up with new updates of anything that either cause issues or break a product. I have a long list of software junk that I've abandoned. Guess this product will be next on my list.
This problem was reported back in February. Obviously there is no desire to fix it.
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shubhr0 last edited by
Atleast give an option to enable that will keep a backup of all tabs and info in my opera profile or in my flow. This happened to me today, all my workspace tabs are lost.
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dermotmoconnor last edited by dermotmoconnor
@shubhr0 I can't believe this is still unfixed. Actually I can. Over the last few years I've seen this same show-stopping contempt for users from Dropbox (who deleted all the files in my DB folder, then denied any responsibility; surreal. They moved 1tb of my data off my HD and onto their cloud 'for my convenience). Took me ages to redownload all the files and to reinstall my custom icons. But it only took me 3 minutes to cancel my monthly subscription, haha).
Same with Adobe, another sub canned after a studio-killer 'update' that crashed PS every time I tried to open an image. Many people affected, I bailed on Adobe then and used an older version of the app that I own (CS6). That same pattern of "we couldn't be bothered to fix this". If the problem affects 1% or 2% of the users, those % are screwed. The loss of $500 a year from me and the other users doesn't bother them apparently.
I've been using Vivaldi since late August as mentioned above, it's great. No regrets.
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AnotherUselessPoster last edited by
I'll add my story from 11th Nov 2023 (today). So I only have 16 GB of RAM on a Win 10 computer and my Opera regularly goes to 5-8 GB of memory usage, and essentially the computer becomes too sluggish to use (the memory use of browsers is a different topic altogether). Anyhow I have been using Opera for a few years, originally moved from Firefox because Firefox kept losing my tabs (ironic now!) and I also loved the Workspaces feature. Not a big fan of tab islands but I adapted.
Today I closed Opera when it was taking 5.7 GB of RAM and my RAM usage was somewhere in the 90%+. I had refreshed a couple of tabs on my current workspace just before I closed. Closing took a minute or so. Upon reopening Opera, I was greeted with the "new Opera version" sound and logo (I hate it, btw, especially at night when I'm trying to be quiet). And my workspace which used to have 100+ tabs now only had four tabs - two tabs that I remember having refreshed in the last hour or so, an empty tab (not sure why - I do have "Display the start page first" enabled though, maybe that's it), and the "Opera has updated" tab. The Opera version is/was 104.0.4944.36 but after the update it downloaded .54 - why it couldn't download that directly I don't know...
Previously I have been using Opera without any tab loss. I run my computer 24/7 and restart Opera (and only Opera) maybe once a week or every two weeks because of the memory issue. No problems ever before. But now it seems the problem described in this thread has come to ruin my day. I'm guessing this was a combination of whatever bugs exist regarding tabs, and perhaps a memory issue if that's also some rare known issue, AND Opera updating its version. I haven't used Tab Suspender but sounds like I should!
So yeah, 100+ tabs lost. In fact I remember the count upon "Really quit Opera" being around 1467, and now when I closed again when I was attempting to do some manual session restore stuff, it was 1348 tabs. So yeah, 119 tabs gone. Great. And of course trying to fix the sessions manually didn't work, somehow Opera gets the tabs from somewhere else than Sessions or already corrupted the bigger Tabs file.
For what it's worth, considering my experience, the vast majority of users probably don't encounter the tab issues at all. I was like that until today. I have not been able to replicate my issue again (and fingers crossed I never will). So whatever is going on is not quite as simple as Opera always losing the tabs as described here - there's some variables at play. No idea what those could be. My only extensions are a defunct crypto thing called Keplr and Bookmark All Tabs (which can only bookmark the current workspace, of course). No major settings changes.
Fingers crossed this is my only post here. I do like the workspaces and the floating video player, and those will keep me as an Opera user unless the tabs start disappearing more often.
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Hesperia last edited by
@anotheruselessposter This is very painful. So sorry. After my loss that I described above, I started using the Session Buddy addon. I hope it will help me if I encounter this kind of issue again.
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Trekpluto last edited by
that doesn't work, "keep tabs from...." i have that set and have 4 workspaces with 20 tabs each. it's a hassle and time wasted to keep going into history to find those tabs or even to save as dial folder. time is important.
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Trekpluto last edited by
@leocg said in Lost My Opened Tabs:
keep opened tabs from last session
this is not working. it's enabled with no success
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bronlund last edited by
Yeah, me too. I've been using Vivaldi the last couple of months and not only did this fix the problems I had with Opera, but the number of options you have in Vivaldi compared to Opera is just mind-boggling.
At this point, I don't think I'm ever going back to Opera. They convinced me with all that talk about multi-threading and stuff, but it just wasn't worth it. The thing I regret most, isn't going all-in myself, but the fact that I recommended Opera to a lot of people - they must think I'm an idiot.
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Trekpluto last edited by leocg
@bronlund tried vivaldi. it is robust, but as a designer visual artist, Opera got the visual and ui correct. Vivaldi seems clunky, though it has rich features.
Opera has to make it a priority to fix one of the main features in any browser -- Tab management. It's there, but buggy. Fix this please. People have been complaining since 2020 on this. This should have been fixed a while ago. The head of development at Opera has dropped the ball.
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A Former User last edited by
I found Vivaldi at least as buggy as Opera, TBH even more so. And it doesn’t surprise me, actually, given their small team and their features. So, no good refuge for people fleeing Opera because of its alleged bugs IMHO.
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dermotmoconnor last edited by
@celticcross Well, our experiences have been different. I've had a great time with it on a very cranky 15 year old Dell Inspiron (!) - and no problems at all with my 7 year old HP Zbook. Definitely a refuge for me, thank god.
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A Former User last edited by
@dermotmoconnor For me it was the other way round. Opera smooth, not clunky, simply working without Millions of adjustments, better refined features for me, not so many bugs after updates, and not lost in custemization. After all, even not a needless mail and calendar.
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shubhr0 last edited by
Meanwhile i request opera browser team to please provide an option to manually download a backup file for custom workspace + tabs opened in them. Mostly people use same setup for months or years, it would help us all a lot. Or make a restore point setup for all the settings if possible!
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dermotmoconnor last edited by dermotmoconnor
@tanekdk Many here, myself included, tried this klunky workaround. It did not work. In my case, whatever was borking my tabs may have been borking the sessions feature. Even if it worked, it's not satisfactory as you'd need to be making a backup of every session to be on the safe side.
And still this thing is rolling on, unreal. Adobe level behaviour.
And again, I'm typing this on Vivaldi, ZERO regrets on migrating.
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TanekDK last edited by
@dermotmoconnor (knock on wood) I haven't had a session wipe happen for about three months, but when it did, Opera had to be closed before copying the files back, as it would otherwise have a lock on some of the session files, and wouldn't restore the session.
I probably jinxed myself now...
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