Windows 10, latest version (version: 100.0.4815.76), and running it on Linux Mint Mate, latest version. MINT wiped out twice, though has been stable for the last week, but Win10 is a nightmare.

Tabs are continuously being wiped out. This is wasting so much time. They have the time to create their stupid musical 'O' intro that blasts my speakers at launch, so maybe that dev time could have been put to better use, instead of nuking my tabs?

I've used this browser for 20 years, but this really is starting to look like Cory Doctorow's "ensh*ttification" at work again. This has being going on for two weeks!!!!!! Two freaking weeks!

Wakey wakey opera!

Ah who am I kidding, time to look for a better browser...but I really don't like Firefox.

@tedthetrumpet

It's all part of The Enshittification. At least with Adobe's form of it, I was able to roll back to PS CS6 and stick with that (as I don't need their asinine and over-rated 'AI' filters).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/11/users-advertisers-we-are-all-trapped-in-the-enshittification-of-the-internet

@andrewcerberus

I've stopped having my entire session deleted - now, it's just my main workspace. I have six (my first one has my open tabs for email, social media, etc). The other five are OK. Strange stuff.

I use the speed dial trick of saving all workspace tabs in a speedial folder, so have been able to restore MOST of them there.

This is bananas stuff. Programmers at this point can't or won't fix this. Neither speaks well of them.

@beorn1
Thanks for the reminder about Vivaldi. I see it's run by ex Opera people, open, etc., it's pretty good so far. Also available on Linux, hopefully I can get it working there as well as win10.

@hesperia
I've been using Vivaldi browser on both my machines (Win10 and Linux Mint), and it's great! Many thanks to the poster above who recommended it. The one thing that was driving me around the bend was the implementation of workspace icons (I wanted to keep them like Opera's = vertical on the left side). Happily, this is fixable. A bit tricky / wonky, but quite doable, And I can now customise them, which is actually better than Opera.

Here's a vid link to give you a sense:
https://vivaldi.com/blog/how-to/pawel-shows-you-how-to-play-with-workspaces-and-custom-icons-in-vivaldi/

BTW, the only site that Vivaldi doesn't open for me is this one.

Odd that, eh?

Anyway, give it a go. I haven't regretted it.

https://vivaldi.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

Quote Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its distinctive features.[16][18] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[19][20]

As of April 2023, Vivaldi has more than 2.4 million active users.

@beorn1
Well, just made the switch to Vivaldi. Got all bookmarks in (easy), and migrated all tabs. Only thing I miss is having workspaces on a vertical sidebar instead of on top bar, but the bookmarks more than make up for it. Overall, a very 'Opera' feel to it. Certainly more familiar to me than Firefox or Chrome (Shudder).

Odd thing: once signed into Vivaldi, my open YT creator page in Opera logged me out, and I can't get back in, but as I'm in with Vivaldi, and am done with Opera, no worries.
Uninstalling Opera now.

Bye guys, thanks for 20+ ish years of happy browsing, sorry you're hellbent on Ensh!ttification.

Good luck with your new 'strategy', you're gonna need it.

@tanekdk Many here, myself included, tried this klunky workaround. It did not work. In my case, whatever was borking my tabs may have been borking the sessions feature. Even if it worked, it's not satisfactory as you'd need to be making a backup of every session to be on the safe side.

And still this thing is rolling on, unreal. Adobe level behaviour.

And again, I'm typing this on Vivaldi, ZERO regrets on migrating.

@celticcross Well, our experiences have been different. I've had a great time with it on a very cranky 15 year old Dell Inspiron (!) - and no problems at all with my 7 year old HP Zbook. Definitely a refuge for me, thank god.

@shubhr0 I can't believe this is still unfixed. Actually I can. Over the last few years I've seen this same show-stopping contempt for users from Dropbox (who deleted all the files in my DB folder, then denied any responsibility; surreal. They moved 1tb of my data off my HD and onto their cloud 'for my convenience). Took me ages to redownload all the files and to reinstall my custom icons. But it only took me 3 minutes to cancel my monthly subscription, haha).

Same with Adobe, another sub canned after a studio-killer 'update' that crashed PS every time I tried to open an image. Many people affected, I bailed on Adobe then and used an older version of the app that I own (CS6). That same pattern of "we couldn't be bothered to fix this". If the problem affects 1% or 2% of the users, those % are screwed. The loss of $500 a year from me and the other users doesn't bother them apparently.

I've been using Vivaldi since late August as mentioned above, it's great. No regrets.
https://vivaldi.com/

@hesperia
I've been using Vivaldi browser on both my machines (Win10 and Linux Mint), and it's great! Many thanks to the poster above who recommended it. The one thing that was driving me around the bend was the implementation of workspace icons (I wanted to keep them like Opera's = vertical on the left side). Happily, this is fixable. A bit tricky / wonky, but quite doable, And I can now customise them, which is actually better than Opera.

Here's a vid link to give you a sense:
https://vivaldi.com/blog/how-to/pawel-shows-you-how-to-play-with-workspaces-and-custom-icons-in-vivaldi/

BTW, the only site that Vivaldi doesn't open for me is this one.

Odd that, eh?

Anyway, give it a go. I haven't regretted it.

https://vivaldi.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

Quote Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its distinctive features.[16][18] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[19][20]

As of April 2023, Vivaldi has more than 2.4 million active users.

@celticcross 100% irrelevant to me. I can continue to use a browser that randomly nukes my tabs (which are essential to my job) or I can use Vivaldi. I'll give V a go, if it poops the bed I'll reluctantly to go Firefox.

So far V hasn't wiped my tabs, which suggest their devs might just give a crap about their users, more than I can say about O.

@beorn1
Well, just made the switch to Vivaldi. Got all bookmarks in (easy), and migrated all tabs. Only thing I miss is having workspaces on a vertical sidebar instead of on top bar, but the bookmarks more than make up for it. Overall, a very 'Opera' feel to it. Certainly more familiar to me than Firefox or Chrome (Shudder).

Odd thing: once signed into Vivaldi, my open YT creator page in Opera logged me out, and I can't get back in, but as I'm in with Vivaldi, and am done with Opera, no worries.
Uninstalling Opera now.

Bye guys, thanks for 20+ ish years of happy browsing, sorry you're hellbent on Ensh!ttification.

Good luck with your new 'strategy', you're gonna need it.

@beorn1
Thanks for the reminder about Vivaldi. I see it's run by ex Opera people, open, etc., it's pretty good so far. Also available on Linux, hopefully I can get it working there as well as win10.

@andrewcerberus

I've stopped having my entire session deleted - now, it's just my main workspace. I have six (my first one has my open tabs for email, social media, etc). The other five are OK. Strange stuff.

I use the speed dial trick of saving all workspace tabs in a speedial folder, so have been able to restore MOST of them there.

This is bananas stuff. Programmers at this point can't or won't fix this. Neither speaks well of them.

@tedthetrumpet

It's all part of The Enshittification. At least with Adobe's form of it, I was able to roll back to PS CS6 and stick with that (as I don't need their asinine and over-rated 'AI' filters).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/11/users-advertisers-we-are-all-trapped-in-the-enshittification-of-the-internet

@andrewcerberus
I'm not seeing that. But if I type a URL, say sp and it autofills space.com, I just hit enter and it takes me there. I'm not seeing this, unless my process is different?