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    • beorn1
      beorn1 @dermotmoconnor last edited by

      @dermotmoconnor
      For my use cases, vivaldi is doing the job well enough.

      Take a look at the sidebar. There is an icon "Windows" ("Fenster" in german) and there you can access your workspaces. Ok, it is not as smart as opera in this case, but it works and if your monitor is wide enough, there should be no problem 😉

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        After eight years in existence Vivaldi hasn‘t managed to get more than a stagnating 2.4m users. They once said, they needed at least 5m to become profitable. That’s giving me a pause to think.
        Opera is being used by more than 300m people and even Brave, roughly as old as Vivaldi, is having 50m users.
        As a matter of fact, although it may be praised by loyal users, it hardly hasn’t any real world impact though. One might regret it, but that’s the way it is.

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        • dermotmoconnor
          dermotmoconnor @Guest last edited by

          @celticcross 100% irrelevant to me. I can continue to use a browser that randomly nukes my tabs (which are essential to my job) or I can use Vivaldi. I'll give V a go, if it poops the bed I'll reluctantly to go Firefox.

          So far V hasn't wiped my tabs, which suggest their devs might just give a crap about their users, more than I can say about O.

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          • AndrewCerberus
            AndrewCerberus @beorn1 last edited by

            @beorn1 Same here, I'm quite happy with Vivaldi right now, it's the next best thing if you want something similar to Opera.
            It has a different approach on some of it's features, but the level of customization makes up for it, to adjust it to my needs.
            And most importantly, it hasn't nuked my tabs either. 💪 💪 💪

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            • mixchild
              mixchild last edited by

              This time it only wiped out tabs in one workstation, so yeah

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              • MarqM
                MarqM @mixchild last edited by MarqM

                @mixchild I guess you mean "one workspace"?.
                However I experienced the same at least once with the latest three Opera One releases (currently version 102.0.4880.33 on Windows 11 Home), that all tabs of the last opened workspace where wiped out at starting the first browser window.
                It seems that Opera does not properly distinguish between the first opened window and any further "New Window", which is opened with empty workspaces, except one speed dial tab.
                According to my settings the first browser window should be opened with my last tab configuration. Occasionally it works that way but in most cases it still starts by displaying an additional speed dial window and not the last opened tab, consequently overriding my setting not to "Display the start page first". And once in a while it starts the last opened workspace empty with only the start page, treating the workspace as if it was part of a "New Window".

                But what Opera does when starting the first window is totally unpredictable. I do not use islands and I always close Opera the same way and I get all 3 possibilities on startup as described above, no idea how to reproduce them:

                • correct start (no tab loss, displaying the last opened tab)
                • start without tab loss but with start page first
                • start with complete tab loss in last opened workspace with start page only
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                • MarqM
                  MarqM @MarqM last edited by

                  @marqm said in Lost My Opened Tabs:

                  correct start (no tab loss, displaying the last opened tab)
                  start without tab loss but with start page first
                  start with complete tab loss in last opened workspace with start page only

                  I have to add a fourth possibility to this list, it happened just a few minutes ago:

                  • correct start (no tab loss, displaying the last opened tab)
                  • start without tab loss but with start page first
                  • start with complete tab loss in last opened workspace with start page only
                  • start without tab loss but with start page first in the last opened workspace, but complete tab loss at another workspace with start page only (only one workspace affected)

                  Wow, a completely new feature: randomized bug symptoms.

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                  • bronlund
                    bronlund last edited by leocg

                    Lost all my 100+ tabs in 8 workspaces! And what did I do to deserve this? I closed the last tab in one of the workspaces. Everything gone! And is there, at least, an option to avoid closing the window on closing the last tab? Of course not.

                    How difficult is it to understand that users of browsers kind of like to Kwwp The Tabs!!!

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                    • Hesperia
                      Hesperia last edited by

                      Same here, but I lost tabs in one workspace only. MacOS Ventura 13.5.2. Opera: 102.0.4880.56. Infuriating.

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                      • dermotmoconnor
                        dermotmoconnor @Hesperia last edited by leocg

                        @hesperia
                        I've been using Vivaldi browser on both my machines (Win10 and Linux Mint), and it's great! Many thanks to the poster above who recommended it. The one thing that was driving me around the bend was the implementation of workspace icons (I wanted to keep them like Opera's = vertical on the left side). Happily, this is fixable. A bit tricky / wonky, but quite doable, And I can now customise them, which is actually better than Opera.

                        Here's a vid link to give you a sense:
                        https://vivaldi.com/blog/how-to/pawel-shows-you-how-to-play-with-workspaces-and-custom-icons-in-vivaldi/

                        BTW, the only site that Vivaldi doesn't open for me is this one.

                        Odd that, eh? 😃

                        Anyway, give it a go. I haven't regretted it.

                        https://vivaldi.com/

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

                        Quote Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its distinctive features.[16][18] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[19][20]

                        As of April 2023, Vivaldi has more than 2.4 million active users.

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                        • RPPDLH
                          RPPDLH @leocg last edited by

                          @leocg Not true. There's a long history of this issue when Opera is used on MacBooks going back to February. Workspaces nor tabs are saved making the workspace feature worthless. Basically if you have to close the browser, you start from scratch when you re-open it. If you had 40 tabs open. Sorry, they are lost. And yes, I do have the options set to re-open the previous session of Opera. Thank goodness Brave and other browsers can re-open sessions. I'm losing hope that it will ever be fixed for Opera with MacBooks.

                          I fail to understand the logic of coming up with new features, such as workspaces and not having them support MacBooks.

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                          • RPPDLH
                            RPPDLH @MarqM last edited by

                            @marqm I agree, you provided accurate information for the high frustration we are all experiencing with sessions being lost. I for one will leave Opera. If they can't get this right, what else doesn't work right regarding my security. It does make me wonder. No way did this browser go through any QA with any Macbook.

                            I'm personally fed up with new updates of anything that either cause issues or break a product. I have a long list of software junk that I've abandoned. Guess this product will be next on my list.

                            This problem was reported back in February. Obviously there is no desire to fix it.

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