Opera 25.0 - Where have all settings gone?

  • I just upgraded to 25.0 and find it to be a complete disaster! There are no settings for anything anymore, I can't move the tabs from top to bottom, can't find my RSS feeds, can't show icons only in the bookmarks bar, can't set Shift-click to open link in new tab etc. This version is plain horrible!

    Is there something I'm missing here? Is there a way of configuring and setting things the way I want?

  • Welcome to the brave new world!
    :jester:
    You can still use Opera 12.17, side by side with the new one if you wish, as I do.
    :)

  • Change to Blink had a price. If you want customization, use Firefox.

  • Welcome to the brave new world! ...

    This thread's title reminds me of the old 1960's Kingston Trio recording of a Pete Seeger song: Where Have All the Flowers Gone? I'll refrain from updating the lyrics to apply to Opera... though the temptation is indeed strong. Must... resist... resist...

  • Welcome to the brave new world! ...

    This thread's title reminds me of the old 1960's Kingston Trio recording of a Pete Seeger song: Where Have All the Flowers Gone? I'll refrain from updating the lyrics to apply to Opera... though the temptation is indeed strong. Must... resist... resist...

    I was going to breakout into a song, sung by David Essex as the artillery man (that has the same title as part of Dave's quote) which was in Jeff Wayne's Musical version of War of the Worlds.

    But I guess I should refrain. :D

  • Windows 8.1 won't allow Opera 12 to run.

  • I also like option to moving opened tab after last. right now for me is a one big mess when I open 10 links and they open in the middle of the tabs and it's still not one by one.
    I need old option to set how new card will be open.

  • For nuOpera, you'll need an extention. Like "Classic Tabs", IIRC.

  • Do you really need all those settings? Personally, I am grooving on the more spartan Opera settings things. The only thing that I wish they would bring back is a way to mandate how much disk cache I want Opera to use or in my case, none since I have nearly 16GB's of RAM memory available for Opera to use.

  • Leria, the point is not about someone particular needing something or not, but that Opera was renowned and made its fame and name by its pioneering customisability and set of unique user options - built-in within the core install. Now we seem to have that even using extentions won't rehabilitate nuOpera back to those highs: for example, layout customisability is lost*:rip:*

  • I've the same problem with to many missing functions in Opera 25. Like I wrote a few days ago. https://forums.opera.com/topic/6101/from-opera-12-17-to-25-searching-for-functions/1

    I think you have to deal with it and hope the functions get back in future, but I personally don't have much hope.
    When I can't use Opera 12 anymore I've to take a look at some other browser.

  • ... I think you have to deal with it and hope the functions get back in future, but I personally don't have much hope. ...

    Indeed, Presto Opera users MUST find ways to deal with it. Presto Opera itself is not coming back - end of story. Presto Opera itself is slowly decaying into obsolescence, particularly with certain popular websites. The Presto era (and it was a long one) is over. I note all that while writing as a Presto veteran-user and admirer. So Presto Opera users would be well-advised to explore the browser universe and try out various types, Blink Opera included among them. Only by actually trying them out will a user find out what now works best for him/her - that is, what the performance of the browser on his/her system will be and what degree of harmony can be struck between the user's needs and a given browser's traits and features.

  • I saw in another link that it will get a little better in v 27.0 which is 2-3 months away. :/

  • I also like option to moving opened tab after last. right now for me is a one big mess when I open 10 links and they open in the middle of the tabs and it's still not one by one.
    I need old option to set how new card will be open.

    +1
    Opening new tabs in the middle of 5 tabs is terrible.

  • but that Opera was renowned and made its fame and name by its pioneering customisability and set of unique user options

    Yes, so famous it only had around 2% of the browser market share and had a terrible rendering engine that nearly forced Opera to disappear completely had they not built the new browser.

  • Yes, so famous it only had around 2% of the browser market share and had a terrible rendering engine that nearly forced Opera to disappear completely had they not built the new browser.

    Stats like these are generally ignored by those lamenting Presto's passing. Some have even accused Opera of being disloyal to them... as though "they" are the measure of all things. Opera made a decision to abandon Presto and that is exactly what the company has done. It is now deeply committed to developing Opera Next and so far, the new browser appears to be catching on with the general public. Ultimately Opera Blink will prove to be a popular browser and be of greater benefit to the company than the former ever was. Whether the so-called power-users of the past agree or not is irrelevant at this point.

  • Good points leushino. At least those stats haven't been ignored by the Opera team, who are the only ones that matter. Also, words like 'power user' are generally ignored by me! :D

  • I have to ask what exactly is the difference between the Opera Blink (version 25) and Opera Next.

    I was looking for patch notes and so on, but these are extremely scarce and general considering Opera V25 and well "Next".
    I as a decades long Opera user want just my few built in features back I had in Opera since the beginning (Version 7 or 9 for me).
    Don't want no extension, add-ons or STD's; And I want to tell this the Developers in a civil way, so they can easily see what was important or just nice-to-have for me.

  • I have to ask what exactly is the difference between the Opera Blink (version 25) and Opera Next.
    I was looking for patch notes and so on, but these are extremely scarce and general considering Opera V25 and well "Next".
    I as a decades long Opera user want just my few built in features back I had in Opera since the beginning (Version 7 or 9 for me).
    Don't want no extension, add-ons or STD's; And I want to tell this the Developers in a civil way, so they can easily see what was important or just nice-to-have for me.

    Opera "Next" was the term applied to what are now called Opera "Beta" versions (currently v.26). There is a more experimental version that is called Opera Developer (currently v.27), and of course there is the released Opera Stable version (currently v.25). Minor updates to each or all of these version levels can be made at any time, and only bump the extended "decimal" portions of the version numbers. A given version number progresses over time from a Developmental status to a Stable 'released' status, with no more than one version number occupying each niche at a time.

    Change-logs are issued each time a version is either released or updated, and convey what has been altered since the prior release or update preceeding.

    Because Blink Opera represents a complete redesign of the browser, the only features it possesses are what are added by the developers (that is, old Presto features haven't been "removed"... if they're absent, they simply haven't been added anew). The philosophy of the new design has been to build a basic browser, with many user features to be added as needed via extensions and others to be developed in response to what Opera sees as significant to its target market. So, if you want a particular feature not presently part of Blink Opera, you will have to either find a suitable extension or do without. Or, politely make your desire known to Opera in their suggestion forum and 'hope'... realizing that the feature(s) you want may not be developed native to the browser for a VERY long time, if ever. Opera is continuing to develop certain features for their new browser, but detailed configurability of the browser and many of the small Presto features "of old" will almost certainly never be incorporated natively to the extent of those Presto versions.

  • At least you have some settings.

    All I get - every time I open OPERA 25.0 is a message that "Your preferences files cannot be read. Some features may be unavailable and changes to settings won't be saved."

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