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Have an own forum for Presto-based Opera versions

  • What do you think about having an own forum for Presto-based Opera versions?
    I'm not sure how to name it to avoid confusion (maybe "Opera 12 and below"), but it certainly makes sense:
    Whenever somebody asks a question the first reaction is to ask which version he's using cause answers will be totally different for legacy and current versions.

  • They're also for Windows, Schmindows, etc.

  • I think it would be kind of useless.

  • It wood. :P

  • It may be interesting but, at the same time, it can be kinda confusing.

  • I think it would kind of useless because at the beginning the forum would have movement, after some time it would be abandoned due to the problems that won't be fixed.

  • I think that in time we will need a separate forum for "legacy" Opera versions.
    Already it's very difficult to respond to some threads because the OPs do not specify which version of Opera they're using.
    Whether we need it yet is debatable though.
    :)

  • Any such forum would need to have something descriptive in the forum title like "Opera for Windows: versions 15 & above" and "Opera for Windows: versions 12.xx & below". As bad as the situation currently is with users being silent about their versions, unless they had to consider which forum to post in, they'll end up posting in the wrong one more often than not. Each forum would also need a "sticky" at the top telling a user how to identify their version... not that they'd read it, but one can always try. :rolleyes:

    But overall, I think it would be a good thing to have them separate.

  • Opera Classic ?.

    Oh, and +1 for a separate thread for Presto (does anyone still use anything older) versions of Opera.

  • There are pre-7 versions available on the archive site if you really want, but don't bother asking for help when they fail to render modern websites properly.

  • Opera Presto is dead. Trying to keep alive a dead browser suite is ridiculous. Ultimately most websites will not render properly and there will be security issues to deal with. What is the point? I suppose you could do what the group in DnD did and form your own forum apart from this official Opera forum. But don't expect that Opera will give over space for a dead browser that would only serve to confuse users. There is opportunity to ask your Presto-related questions here in this forum so there is no point in having a separate forum. Do you find Netscape forums alive and running today? Of course not because Netscape is dead and buried. That is the ultimate fate of Presto Opera and you need to deal with it sooner or later.

  • There's another forum where you can get help for using the Classic Opera without being harassed by fanboys.

    https://vivaldi.net/forum/

  • Leushino, we're all dead - it's only a matter of time that we realise it.
    Seriously, you're not dead - when you are, you won't actually realise that.
    Neither does Opera:P (By the way, the browser I'm typing within now feels perfectly ALIVE! :P
    Opera 11, pseudo-Russian "yedishun":haha:) :)

    There's another forum where you can get help for using the Classic Opera without being harassed by fanboys.
    https://vivaldi.net/forum/

    Pesala, I'm registered there, but those few times I tried it (quite AGO) I didn't like it*:yuck:*
    I'm not sure if it'll feel better now...:rolleyes:

  • Opera Presto is dead. Trying to keep alive a dead browser suite is ridiculous. ... What is the point? I suppose you could do what the group in DnD did and form your own forum apart from this official Opera forum. But don't expect that Opera will give over space for a dead browser that would only serve to confuse users. There is opportunity to ask your Presto-related questions here in this forum so there is no point in having a separate forum. Do you find Netscape forums alive and running today? Of course not because Netscape is dead and buried. That is the ultimate fate of Presto Opera and you need to deal with it sooner or later.

    @leushino, it may seem ridiculous to you... but those who like Presto's features, configurability, and ability to run on old hardware clearly disagree with you. You obviously know little about the great numbers of users in Africa, South America, Asia, Eastern Europe, and other places who still rely strongly on Presto Opera, growing obsolescence and all. Their systems are old, underpowered, and nearly impossible for them to replace economically... but those systems will run Presto Opera, and it runs well on them. Those users need a place to go to get timely answers when things malfuntion or fail, as things do with all software at times. Yet much of the time, when they ask Presto questions in these forums, their questions are either ignored in the vast pool of questions focused on other versions, or else are mocked by other users claiming the posters have no business still using Presto in the first place. Please stop your preoccupation with, and your apparent crusade, to rid the world (and especially these forums) of all things Presto... your world is not the only world out there. Presto will, indeed, die its own natural death eventually, but there's no need to make things more difficult for those still feeling they must use and maintain it for as long as they possibly can.

  • Leushino, we're all dead - it's only a matter of time that we realise it.
    Seriously, you're not dead - when you are, you won't actually realise that.
    Neither does Opera (By the way, the browser I'm typing within now feels perfectly ALIVE!
    Opera 11, pseudo-Russian "yedishun":haha:)

    I'm Orthodox, joshl, so I do not accept your dismal prediction of a future without existence and cognizance.

    Those who feel you MUST have a separate forum can simply open up a thread entitled: Presto Users Q & A here on this forum and be content. Having two separate forums would only add to confusion.

    @blackbird: it's unwise of you to make assumptions as you have done. I'm surprised.

  • And by the way, I'm going to have to agree with joshl's lack of love for Vivaldi. That forum is about as dead a forum as I've seen in a long time. It's hardly a replacement for the Opera forum so you can peddle your wares elsewhere, pesala. And as for fanboys, there are as many Presto fanboys there as there are so-called Opera Blink fanboys here so at least try and be fair about that. You still haven't mastered dispassion, have you pesala. I know... it's a tough row to hoe with a proud personality. (wink wink nod nod say no more)

  • I imagine how Presto forum would work: problems and problems that won't be fixed. Soon or later Presto won't be used anymore.

  • Exactly, Sidney. :coffee:

  • ...
    @blackbird: it's unwise of you to make assumptions as you have done. I'm surprised.

    @leushino, I'm not sure what you refer to as "assumptions"... I consider my observations to be "conclusions" drawn from the recurring themes I've observed in so many posts you've made in recent weeks in thread after thread. I realize you're weary of generic whining about Blink... but not all users with Presto issues or Blink complaints are simply whining, and not all users with Presto issues can simply install Blink Opera in their aging systems nor afford new systems capable of running it. You may see your constant refrain of "Blink Opera, love it or leave it" as a kind of 'tough love' - but you seem to make no observable allowance in any of your posts for the numerically large number of users who don't fit into that neat little scenario. Perhaps I'm wrong, but there's both a lack of contructiveness and a certain stridency or harshness coming through in post after post...

  • blackbird: Here's your assumption:
    "You obviously know little about the great numbers of users in Africa, South America, Asia, Eastern Europe, and other places who still rely strongly on Presto Opera..."

    I know all about this and if truth be known, it's not my concern. Now whether you agree with that or not is not my concern. However, don't presume to tell me what I know and don't know based upon your faulty assumptions. And furthermore, I don't care about your conclusions regarding my previous posts. You say that "perhaps I (meaning you) are wrong, but..." Indeed, you are wrong. Please understand that I don't care a fig about your view of me (i.e. 'there's a certain harshness in my posts'). Big deal. Go preach to someone else. If truth be told I find you insufferably arrogant and self-righteous but up until now I haven't said anything of the kind. Furthermore, I have not said ALL Presto users are whiners or complainers. Obviously the vast majority of Presto users don't bother with the forums. A miniscule group of Presto users in comparison to the user base comes here and for the most part, complains and it is to that group that I direct many of my posts so don't put words in my mouth that are not there and don't erect a straw man of your own making and then cleverly take it apart limb by limb.

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