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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      My goodness, yes please take the suggestion to try to read people's replies entirely and reply all at once in a more concise way.

      1st: The Virgin Mobile HTC EVO V 4G is just the HTC EVO 3D CDMA version relaunched with the Android 4.0.x update built-in.
      2nd: Both run Android 4.0.x. The EVO 3D received the update from 2.3 to 4.0 a long time ago.
      3rd: So yes we have the same phone, but I assumed your version has more storage (4 GB). Now I see that the operating system is taking about 3 GB from your internal storage, leaving you with 1 GB of internal storage = ROM for you to use with apps and personal files (what you apparently called of "internal SD"), apart from the external SD Card.

      There's no need to post the specification which can be easily checked online:
      http://www.virginmobileusa.com/shop/cell-phones/htc-evo-phone/features/
      http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_cdma-3895.php "Also known as HTC EVO V 4G for Virgin Mobile."

      Originally posted by therealankit:

      If you are saying that your ROM(Internal Memory) is just 1Gb, then it's too low, you should stick with Opera Mini. It should be at least 4GB to make Opera Mobile work properly.

      Nope, it works completely fine in my phone with 1 GB of internal storage. This isn't low at all. Opera Mini you give you a much worse experience with websites by its nature of transcoding the pages and killing JavaScript, etc.

      Also @Nowurtalkin said he has about 289 MB free. That's more than enough, so the storage isn't the problem.
      So he certainly has a problem with his phone, or a configuration, or another app is interfering since I have the same phone and it's OK. I suppose it's an anti-virus or battery saver app.
      @Nowurtalkin can you check if everything at Settings -> Developers options is unchecked and the process limit is set to standard?

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        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Most devices have RAM, local storage, an internal SD card, and a slot for an external SD card. RAM is actual processor memory and volatile (loses its contents if you use up the battery).

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        • nowurtalkin
          nowurtalkin last edited by

          Originally posted by therealankit:

          @Nowurtalkin Firstly dude, please summarize post in lesser words, you have written down so many words that it is hard to go through.

          Now, RAM and ROM(Internal Memory) are different things. If you are saying that your ROM(Internal Memory) is just 1Gb, then it's too low, you should stick with Opera Mini. It should be at least 4GB to make Opera Mobile work properly. You external memory (SD Card) doesn't matter as applications are installed on ROM(Internal Memory).

          Maybe, if you have your box in which your mobile came, you can write down the specification here so that we may provide help.

          There were a lot of different things stated & asked. I can't read the whole thing & then remember all those different points & issues, so I answered several at one time & then I went after several more, one at a time, the best I could. I don't see the difference, if I answer all the points & questions, they are there to just read them, whether in one post or several. Anyway, sorry.

          I know that ram & ROM are 2 different things, but they are also both memory & both internal, so... In my manual, I don't think it referred to ROM, while I think it does mention ram. I don't have it handy but if memory serves, it's like I reported previously, which is a 4 gig internal SD card & 1 gig of ram memory. Additionally, I have a 32 gig external SD card (actually, they are both internal, but I assume the difference is that the one deemed 4 gig internal SD, is only for certain extra important things. It would seem to me that the internal SD is indeed the phone's internal memory card, like for OS & system stuff & contacts? Maybe I'm wrong about that. I also have put all allowable apps on my 32 gig SD, but I'm guessing only certain elements go there & much of also stays on the other internal card. Sorry if that isn't concise enough.

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          • nowurtalkin
            nowurtalkin last edited by

            Originally posted by rafaelluik:

            My goodness, yes please take the suggestion to try to read people's replies entirely and reply all at once in a more concise way.

            1st: The Virgin Mobile HTC EVO V 4G is just the HTC EVO 3D CDMA version relaunched with the Android 4.0.x update built-in.
            2nd: Both run Android 4.0.x. The EVO 3D received the update from 2.3 to 4.0 a long time ago.
            3rd: So yes we have the same phone, but I assumed your version has more storage (4 GB). Now I see that the operating system is taking about 3 GB from your internal storage, leaving you with 1 GB of internal storage = ROM for you to use with apps and personal files (what you apparently called of "internal SD"), apart from the external SD Card.

            There's no need to post the specification which can be easily checked online:
            http://www.virginmobileusa.com/shop/cell-phones/htc-evo-phone/features/
            http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_cdma-3895.php "Also known as HTC EVO V 4G for Virgin Mobile."

            Originally posted by therealankit:

            If you are saying that your ROM(Internal Memory) is just 1Gb, then it's too low, you should stick with Opera Mini. It should be at least 4GB to make Opera Mobile work properly.

            Nope, it works completely fine in my phone with 1 GB of internal storage. This isn't low at all. Opera Mini you give you a much worse experience with websites by its nature of transcoding the pages and killing JavaScript, etc.

            Also @Nowurtalkin said he has about 289 MB free. That's more than enough, so the storage isn't the problem.
            So he certainly has a problem with his phone, or a configuration, or another app is interfering since I have the same phone and it's OK. I suppose it's an anti-virus or battery saver app.
            @Nowurtalkin can you check if everything at Settings -> Developers options is unchecked and the process limit is set to standard?

            It's not "what I call it".... It's what it's called in the specs. I answered the questions rightly I believe. And I know my phone is a re-branded 3D, and maybe you updated the OS but I believe there were 1 or two other differences as well. You yourself, noted a surprising difference you find in some element of the memory, so if that's different, then right there makes them different, and a difference that you are saying is critical to the issue, thus different. Also, isn't the interface thingy different as well? (I forget what they call it, but you know... The way the native pages look & are structured. Maybe their the same in that respect but my newer, upgraded phone was left with the older style interfaces. Nevertheless, I think there was some other difference as well.

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            • nowurtalkin
              nowurtalkin last edited by

              Everything is unchecked except for keeping screen lit when charging. The other is standard

              Does the 3D have the WiMax 4g?

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

                You yourself, noted a surprising difference you find in some element of the memory, so if that's different, then right there makes them different, and a difference that you are saying is critical to the issue

                Yep, the difference I noted is your version reportedly has MORE STORAGE than mine. So it doesn't contribute to the issue at all. It's something else.

                Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

                Also, isn't the interface thingy different as well?

                Nope, both have HTC Sense 3.6 when fully updated.

                Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

                Does the 3D have the WiMax 4g?

                According to GSMArena the CDMA version has. Again that'd be a minor difference between the versions of the same model (the antenna and a difference on the chipset to accommodate it) that doesn't contribute to the issue you're experiencing.

                I really don't know what to think apart from another app interfering or maybe network, sorry.
                Have you tried accessing via a good Wi-Fi network?

                I can't troubleshoot more than this without seeing everything installed in the phone, etc...
                And how weird it is for the stock browser to be working fine according to you! :x

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                • nowurtalkin
                  nowurtalkin last edited by

                  Earlier today I composed most of a reply to help get this worked out, my phone became so unusable & unstable during the process (most likely the same or at least partly the same issue that has been causing the probs I posted here about) that I not only couldn't finish & post but it was so ready to die that I couldn't even get what I had written saved, so I'll have to do it over. 1 thing also to answer is no I didn't try it (16) on wifi yet. I was ironically using wifi last nite to download a sizeable file faster than I can w/VM network, but I had some new problem (never b4 seen) w/that as well. I was able to connect to the wifi but I couldn't get the download to initiate. I tried a bunch of times & I have used this same wifi hotspot many times b4 w/no problem so I have no clue what was stopping the download from occurring. I had to do a 350 MB download via 3g because I can't even get the benefit of the 4g while throttling is in place, so 250k 3g is it for me w/o wifi now. Jeez. Also you said something strange about me saying native browser no problem. I don't know what you reference there that I said, but I haven't had any problem w/native but I haven't tried to use it to access opera 16 if that's what you're saying. It looks like phone is working well enuff at the moment to let me post this & maybe later I'll rewrite my comments to the rest of what you told me.

                  Appreciate the attempts to help me w/this. (oh & by the way, if I had to use wifi to get a better experience w/16, I don't think I would bother w/it anyway. I only use wifi (down the st) for quick big downloads.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

                    oh & by the way, if I had to use wifi to get a better experience w/16, I don't think I would bother w/it anyway.

                    I never said that. I just wanted to confirm the issue wasn't in your carrier's connection. Well I don't know how to help more... I've seen some reports Opera isn't loading any page with this release and jumping back to the Speed Dial, perhaps try Opera again when the next update is released presumably fixing this issue.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Download Clean Master from Google Play Store and clean up your phone. See if that make any difference.

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                      • nowurtalkin
                        nowurtalkin last edited by

                        I didn't say you did say it. I understood that your suggestion was to rule out network issues. I added the comment just to say if I couldn't get good performance of 16 w/o wifi, I wouldn't bother w/it. I do believe it's at least in part, if not fully, an issue w/memory or storage or phone since I'm experiencing an increasing level of instability in general. I hope I can find out what's going on. On the other hand I noted quite a few similar negative comments about the browser.

                        Thx again

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Dear all,

                          we have released a minor upgrade to Beta today. It contains fixes for Off-road mode and also changing default setting for image quality compression.

                          The update is available now in Google Play. All users are recommended to update.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Dear all,

                            we have released a bug fixing upgrade to Beta today. It contains yet another batch of fixes for Off-road mode and also brings Beta build closer to Final one in terms of bug fixes.

                            The update is available now in Google Play. All users are recommended to update.

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                            • d1sasterp1ece
                              d1sasterp1ece last edited by

                              Originally posted by bpydzinski:

                              Dear all,

                              we have released a bug fixing upgrade to Beta today. It contains yet another batch of fixes for Off-road mode and also brings Beta build closer to Final one in terms of bug fixes.

                              The update is available now in Google Play. All users are recommended to update.

                              Just installed it and it already crashed twice on http://www.thephoblographer.com/

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                              • lordchilde
                                lordchilde last edited by

                                Terrible browser. Three times slower than Mini, web pages constantly freeze...

                                Developer should be shot.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  Originally posted by lordchilde:

                                  Terrible browser. Three times slower than Mini, web pages constantly freeze...

                                  Developer should be shot.

                                  lol. You realize there's a fundamental difference between Mini and full browsers like this one which is the cause of the performance discrepancy right?

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                                  • d1sasterp1ece
                                    d1sasterp1ece last edited by

                                    Originally posted by lordchilde:

                                    Terrible browser. Three times slower than Mini, web pages constantly freeze...

                                    Developer should be shot.

                                    Shouldn't you also be shot for thinking this way?
                                    There's a slight difference between constructive criticism and insult, and I think you don't make it.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      Dear all,

                                      we have released another bug fixing upgrade to Beta today. It contains a fix for Off-road mode crashing on specific sites.

                                      The update is available now in Google Play. All users are recommended to update.

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                                      • Everest8ball
                                        Everest8ball last edited by

                                        Is there an option to configure opera beta 16 like opera:config ?

                                        I want to edit the setting " Use bitmap fonts for complex scripts"

                                        Because Hebrew does not display correctly, it displays as rectangles.

                                        In opera mini and opera classic and Android browser, Hebrew display correctly.

                                        I'm using galaxy W with Android 2.3.6

                                        Bug: ANDEX-10042

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                                        • sgunhouse
                                          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                          As Opera Beta is no longer 16, I'm releasing this thread ...

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