Opera doesn't update in any of the channel for about a year
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smokofenek last edited by
@leocg I will try that later, because I'm a bit busy right now. But I want to say that I have two sync accounts. Stable Opera has one and the second one is to have different tabs synced between Dev And Beta. I once considered the problem may be because my main sync account has almost 10k synced things. It says 5865 boomarks and 1593 speed dials. I once lost either one of them, that's why i don't want to fresh install. I will try standalone installation later, but You can see, it's many things to lose. I don't use most of them, but it's hard to actually clean that much. But it's not the problem, cause the another account has maybe 20 things synced, as I actually doesn't need there that much things. So if that would be the cause, it would surely doesn't affect Dev/Beta.
I tried multiple things already. it's not like I just waited it for solve itself. I tried fresh installs, especially when I changed PC or when I lost my SSD hard drive with AppData etc. And as once I lost my data (bookmarks or speeddial) doing that, I am just afraid it will occur again. I tried cache/cookies wipe but it didn't help either. Nothing I did for that, was actually working. I got my new PC not a whole year from now. I think it was June last year. And since it was completely new device with new disks, I fresh installed everything. And the auto update doesn't work. The only thing I do not standard way is path. I may have later disable scheduled autoupdate, as I already said earlier, but iirc it didn't work from the start before I could have done that. I didn't use the program that did that from the beginning of using my new PC, so it has to be unchanged. I actually change more than just that, I even change Desktop, Videos, Music and other default folders to be on D, instead of C. As I am the only user of the PC, I don't need standard template path, so I use custom one for most of the things. I couldn't change path for installing programs though, because it either doesn't work or I didn't even try googling that it may cause problems, because Windows doesn't want people to do that. I know for sure, that if I swap AppData to another folder, the user will stop working and I couldn't even use Menu Start. But yeah, I don't like standard paths, because they are not only on C:, but also they are so messy. Having programs in two different paths without sorting them. So I install things on specific locations. Browsers, as mentioned above, have its own folder. Except for that I don't really do anything peculiar. That's why it bugs me why does it occur.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek You will not loose anything with the Opera USB/Standalone installation, it would be a separated installation for testing.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek said in Opera doesn't update in any of the channel for about a year:
if I disabled Flash Autoupdate, it just didn't autoupdate, but I could update it manually.
You should be able to disable all of Opera's autoupdate scheduled tasks and still update manually by going to the URL
opera://update
oropera://about
. Note though that those pages require opera_autoupdate.exe in the latest version folder in the Opera install folder. If you rename or delete that file (or other files like install helper etc.), checking for updates (or installing updates) will break. It doesn't sound like you messed with any of those files since you said you saw the updater for a sec in the Windows task manager. But, make sure you don't mess with those files. -
burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
D:\Browsers
As in, do you have paths like the following?:
D:\Browsers\Opera GX D:\Browsers\Opera D:\Browsers\Opera Beta D:\Browsers\Opera Developer D:\Browsers\Opera Neon
That should be fine as long as the user you're running those Operas with has write permissions to those folders. You can right-click on those folders in Windows Explorer, goto "properties" and then "Security" to check that your user/user group has full permissions to those folders.
I'd look in "C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Temp.opera" for all the autoupdate log files to see if they show any errors.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek said in Opera doesn't update in any of the channel for about a year:
I am the only user of the PC
Is your Windows account a local-only account or do you sign in with your Microsoft account?
If the former, is your username "Administrator" or is it something else like "fenek"?
Open up a command prompt and enter:
net user yourusername
and press enter. What's it say for Local Group Memberships?
If you sign in with your Microsoft account, there could be some kind of permission issue that doesn't allow the Opera updaters to run right. The earlier suggestion of temporarily creating new, local-only user account on Windows, logging into it and trying to manually update (or at least check for updates) a standalone installation would let you know if that's the case or not.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
Can you check to see if your d: drive is formatted as NTFS or FAT32? You can right-click on the d: drive in Windows Explorer, goto properties and see what it says for the file system. It shouldn't matter normally, but maybe Opera has an issue with fat32 drives and updating.
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smokofenek last edited by
@leocg I'm trying this now, but I actually can't understand how would it help. I mean. If it will work, it won't solve problems, as it's literally standalone thing, doesn't have anything to do with my PC. And if it won't work, then well, it will be even worse.
And well... it still doesn't update. Still grayed out, still checking for updates for eternity. So standalone USB Opera works the same.
@burnout426 Yes, that's more or less how those paths look like. And I am the administrator, so basically I should have access to all the folders. And the permissions shows that admins does have write permission in those folders. Also that's what I expected, as I have my desktop set in D:\ as I mentioned earlier. And yeah, all the folders in that disk doesn't deny the access for me in any way.
Though... You mentioned that log files. And I checked opera_autoupdate.txt from various folders with numbers. Should I copy the whole thing what it's there? There are some errors. COM init failed and unable to acquire locks. Or unable to create IPC as client in another one. Most of it looks similar, but some has additional lines etc.
About the Windows account, I use MS account. But it says that local groups membership is Administrators. As it should.
Also my D:\ drive is NTFS.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by leocg
@smokofenek If it works, then there's a high chance that the problem is related to the current installation.
By the way, you should install it in your computer without changing anything. Have you done that?
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek said in Opera doesn't update in any of the channel for about a year:
You mentioned that log files. And I checked opera_autoupdate.txt from various folders with numbers. Should I copy the whole thing what it's there?
Sure. Some of the errors might be normal (like the ipc one). But, it would be nice to see all of them to see if there's anything that sticks out. When posting, indent each line in the text file by 4 spaces so that it shows up right here on the forums. In Notepad++ for example, goto "settings -> preferences -> languages", make sure the tab size is set to 4 and check "replace by spaces". Then, when you paste the text in Notepad++, ctrl + a to select it all and hit tab to indent the whole selection. Then, hit ctrl + c to copy the new selection.
If you prefer, you can zip up the logs and email them to me. My address is on my profile page here.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek said in Opera doesn't update in any of the channel for about a year:
I have my desktop set in D:\
That should be okay unless the updater fails for some reason when trying to check for (and place if necessary) an Opera desktop shortcut. But, that seems unlikely. Testing in another user account on Windows where the desktop is in the normal place could rule that out just to make sure
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smokofenek last edited by
@leocg It would be weird if it meant my current installations, if the problem last for three different devices with mroe than 3 fresh installations. I at least did fresh install myself, I also had to fresh install few times when I installed Windows from scratch. I don't say it always was greyed out, but problems with updating in various ways persisted through years.
Also yeah. If You mean just installing the Opera on USB stick, then I did that, opened it and immediately went to update page, to check if it works. Without setting anything.
@burnout426 Okay, here You go.
8B8BEB185B58 folder:
[18268:18196:0328/124622.785:148988937:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(371)] COM init failed [18268:18196:0328/124622.785:148988937:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(330)] Unable to acquire locks! Download: true, metric: false [18268:18196:0328/124622.785:148988937:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(134)] Unable to prepare update checker runtime.
8C229BFE8C0C:
[19160:18728:0328/001618.397:107584546:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(371)] COM init failed [19160:18728:0328/001618.397:107584546:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(330)] Unable to acquire locks! Download: true, metric: false [19160:18728:0328/001618.397:107584546:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(134)] Unable to prepare update checker runtime. [19160:21168:0328/001618.397:107584546:ERROR:ipc_thread_impl.cc(136)] Unable to create IPC as client!Pipe name used: oauc_task_pipedc563c719ca17e1217d4b9beaa0a69c8
650C496A2AF1:
[18988:10680:0328/124622.753:148988906:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(373)] COM init failed [18988:3620:0328/124622.753:148988906:ERROR:ipc_thread_impl.cc(137)] Unable to create IPC as client!Pipe name used: oauc_task_pipeb43c8fc6f893dbf38390431fe0eb673b [18988:10680:0328/124622.753:148988906:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(332)] Unable to acquire locks! Download: true, metric: false [18988:10680:0328/124622.753:148988906:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(136)] Unable to prepare update checker runtime.
C4D7DA334F86 doesn't have the txt file.
E06503FB3EF5:
[10612:15224:0328/124622.817:148988968:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(373)] COM init failed [10612:15224:0328/124622.817:148988968:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(332)] Unable to acquire locks! Download: true, metric: false [10612:15224:0328/124622.817:148988968:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(136)] Unable to prepare update checker runtime.
F85DC89167AB:
[18516:760:0328/124622.738:148988890:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(371)] COM init failed [18516:20492:0328/124622.738:148988890:ERROR:ipc_thread_impl.cc(136)] Unable to create IPC as client!Pipe name used: oauc_task_pipe0eba1f778b25428cf6ca49b938cf475b [18516:760:0328/124622.738:148988890:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(330)] Unable to acquire locks! Download: true, metric: false [18516:760:0328/124622.738:148988890:ERROR:autoupdate_checker.cc(134)] Unable to prepare update checker runtime.
About the new user. That will have to wait for another time, because I would have to setup this and I am out of time right now. But I will try this out.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek Nope, I meant to install it on your computer but without changing the default installation path.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@smokofenek The devices have software in common, mainly anti-virus, firewall and secure related software?
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@leocg An older, similar thread where lots of things were tried.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
What processor (and model number) do you have on each of your 3 systems? Sounds weird to ask, but maybe it has to do what extensions are supported by your processors (if they're older). Maybe Opera introduced something a while ago that broke things on your processors. I'm doubting this is the case since you said Windows 10 (unless you're running it on older hardware), but figured I'd ask.