POLL: Tab bar features? Tab stacking / grouping?

  • Hey it's POLL time.

    Would you like to see more tab bar features? (at least one feature in addition to the tab bar itself...)

    Would you like to have tab stacking, tab grouping or similar?

    Yes or no?

  • No, no need for it for me. Whatever extensions that help you organize tabs are sufficient

  • My needs are very slight so no need for any additional tab features, particularly built-in ones, here as well. Those who require such should be able to find extensions as lem posts.

  • I would very much love to have some sort of grouping available, if possible with the option to save individual groups. I am seriously lacking that, and it makes browsing quite difficult as I tend to have loads of tabs at the same time for different topics.

  • Vertical tabs would be interesting. And maybe (optional) automatic tab grouping.

  • You might want to consider this Chrome extension, Tab Saver, which has a grouping tabs feature.

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-saver/kmabfaomlcjlnplkoflgenkmmpilmead/details?hl=en-US

    It gets a lot of reviews, and has an average of a four star rating, so people seem to like it.

    To download a Chrome extension easily, you need the Opera extension, called Download Chrome Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/?display=en

    or Extension Source Viewer, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/extension-source-viewer/

  • I've tested few extensions, and those are very poor, basically nothing new cannot be offered, only different setting that are hidden, but no real new functionality through extensions can be brought to Opera.

  • None of the extensions have tab stacking feature that we learned to love in Opera 12.

    It's s shame that Opera's tab bar basically has no features whatsoever.

  • But did you test Tab Saver?

  • It's not tab stacking 😕

  • You asked about tab grouping. It is that. And it's popular. People like it and find it very helpful. So give it a try, instead of complaining. If it doesn't help you, then uninstall it. What have you then lost? Nothing.

  • I would LOVE to have the ability to turn OFF tabs all together. I don't use them, they're ugly, take up space, and clutter the screen.

  • I find the idea ridiculous that some claim their "work" is hampered because they cannot stack tabs. Evidently they
    have dozens and dozens of tabs open at one time and therefore need to stack them. Seriously? How on earth did you function back in the 90's when there were no tabs at all? And when tabs first appeared the ability to stack them was not present. How did you manage then? My guess is that 90%+ of users do not bother stacking tabs just as 90%+ of users do not have tens of thousands of bookmarks which has also been made such a loud and angry dispute. I've read the posts of several who have claimed in excess of ten thousand bookmarks. Utterly ridiculous and even if that number is accurate, again... my guess is that you are by far in the minority of users. Oh yes, I know that many disgruntled Opera posters will now chime in with all the reasons why thousands upon thousands of bookmarks is perfectly reasonable but the few dozen who will do so are meaningless in the larger scheme of things. Opera has finally started making a browser that will appeal to the masses and so far I love what they have produced.

    Opera: do not be mislead by a noisy, whining group of complainers. They want you to rebuild Presto in the Blink package and throw in everything but the kitchen sink. That is the very reason your Presto browser never "caught on" with more than 3% of users over a 17 year run. Stick with your current game plan. It will be a success as Firefox becomes increasingly bloated and users look for viable alternatives to Chrome.

  • Vertical tabs would be interesting. And maybe (optional) automatic tab grouping.

    The lack of vertical tabs is the only reason I still use Opera 12.16. Please give use vertical tabs (and tab stacking!)

  • There is already a Chrome extension for organizing all your tabs vertically... It's called Veritabs, and you can use it in Opera. http://lifehacker.com/veritabs-organizes-all-your-tabs-vertically-1277795513

    Here's a review. http://lifehacker.com/veritabs-organizes-all-your-tabs-vertically-1277795513

    In lieu of stacking, you might want to consider organizing your tabs with TooManyTabs for Chrome.

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/toomanytabs-for-chrome/amigcgbheognjmfkaieeeadojiibgbdp?hl=en-US

    See http://www.visibotech.com/TMTChrome

    To download a Chrome extension easily, you need the Opera extension, called Download Chrome Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/?display=en

    or Extension Source Viewer, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/extension-source-viewer/

  • Opera: do not be mislead by a noisy, whining group of complainers. They want you to rebuild Presto in the Blink package and throw in everything but the kitchen sink. That is the very reason your Presto browser never "caught on" with more than 3% of users over a 17 year run. ...

    It's actually conjecture as to why Opera's market share stayed low. My own conjecture is that most Presto Opera users adopted Opera via either word of mouth, positive techno-reviews (my personal case), or because they wanted the same brand that they already liked on their mobile devices. If these were the cases, the reason for lack of broad adoption was simply lack of product recognition, not a general dislike of Opera's internal complexity, etc (which was generally hidden anyhow). Based on the admittedly non-controlled sample of folks in various walks of life I've mentioned Opera to over the years since very early Opera (even before I adopted it at version 8), almost none of them initially had ever heard of it throughout that period, though they definitely knew of IE, Netscape, Firefox, and Chrome. You don't build share if very few folks know you're there.

    Two things I'd love to see that would shed much useful light on this whole issue would be results of a sound product-name recognition study among the universe of desktop browser users and a study of the number of users trying and subsequently abandoning the various browser flavors over time. Only then might we truly tell whether Opera's share stayed low in Presto days because of lack of recognition or because of something within the software itself.

  • Vertical tabs.

    Comparatively, horizontal tabs strain eyes tremendously. It also reduces page display (unless you know some Asian websites that are scrolled horizontally).

    Most users are on 16/9 screens with an horizontal task bar, and don't ask for vertical tabs... They are out of their mind! This is madness! Madness!

    Veritabs doesn't work. Sidewise is but it's an awful experience.

  • I find the idea ridiculous that some claim their "work" is hampered because they cannot stack tabs. Evidently they have dozens
    and dozens of tabs open at one time and therefore need to stack them. Seriously? How on earth did you function back in the
    90's when there were no tabs at all? And when tabs first appeared the ability to stack them was not present. How did you
    manage then?

    What kind of argument is that? In the 90's we also managed with 16 MB or RAM, 14-inch CRT monitors, MS-DOS and 56 Kbps connections. That doesn't mean we want to go back to that. Progress is supposed to improve things, not the other way round.

    By the way, I don't really care much about tab stacking, but I understand that each user has their pet features that they need for an efficient workflow. In my case, those (tab-related) features are:

    • Vertical tabs
    • Option to have common (MDI) close button for all tabs
    • Click on tab to minimize
  • I find the idea ridiculous that some claim their "work" is hampered because they cannot stack tabs. Evidently they have dozens
    and dozens of tabs open at one time and therefore need to stack them. Seriously? How on earth did you function back in the
    90's when there were no tabs at all? And when tabs first appeared the ability to stack them was not present. How did you
    manage then?

    What kind of argument is that? In the 90's we also managed with 16 MB or RAM, 14-inch CRT monitors, MS-DOS and 56 Kbps connections. That doesn't mean we want to go back to that.

    I second that. People managed to live without dishwashers and washing machines... electricity... fire.
    Does that mean that they're unnecessary to you? ^^

  • LOL... now you're going too far with exaggeration. The point is, Opera's current browser is perfectly workable for most users. THAT is what I was trying to say, albeit not very well. No doubt Opera will develop the tab function in time but it is certainly not a priority right now. There are always going to be whiners and complainers: this is wrong, why didn't they add such and such back, Presto was so much better... and on and on. I'm certain that Opera's new browser will catch on and be seen as a friendly browser designed for the masses rather than the old one that was viewed as the browser of geeks thereby ensuring it remained below 3% for 17 years. It's no surprise to me that a handful of whiners continue to haunt the forum but notice: those numbers are steadily decreasing. Some have left for FF and Chrome while others have remained and adapted. It is my belief that of those who left many will return and rediscover the beauty of Opera. Short message: give it time and stop your incessant whining.

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