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    • blackbird71
      blackbird71 @hellstra last edited by

      @hellstra said in OperaVPN is not working:

      ... I'm from Bangladesh and I cannot open any link having opera.com without using a vpn. In fact, I even had to use a vpn to be able to download the browser. ... Thank you local censorship, yay!

      Depending on the political atmosphere in a given country, it may be worthwhile for a user to inquire with their government/local-ISP whether their blocking of opera.com URLs is intentional (and if so, why?); it may simply be an unintentional result of their blocking a chunk of "problematic" IPs. On the other hand, in some strict authoritarian nations, such inquiries may themselves be neither safe nor wise for a user to pursue - YMMV, and only an affected local user(s) can make that determination of whether/how-far to locally investigate.

      At the end of the day, all centralized censorship makes everyone a loser in one way or another - but national censorship is one of the unfortunate realities of life in the current real world.

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      • rakejake
        rakejake last edited by

        The whole dilemma can be resolved if Opera can confirm this.

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        • rakejake
          rakejake @hellstra last edited by

          @hellstra You reported the problem to Opera?

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          • hellstra
            hellstra @rakejake last edited by

            @rakejake,

            If my detailed posting here isn't reporting the problem as well as bringing it to Opera's attention then I don't know what is. 😉

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            • rakejake
              rakejake @hellstra last edited by

              @hellstra 😃 You can try reporting a bug.

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              • blackbird71
                blackbird71 @rakejake last edited by blackbird71

                @rakejake said in OperaVPN is not working:

                The whole dilemma can be resolved if Opera can confirm this.

                If you are able to visit https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/internet-censorship-map/ , you can gain a view of the scope of censorship worldwide as of January 2020 (particularly if within that page, you set the "Show -- entries" to 100 in the nation-table part way down the site's page). Bangladesh ranks quite high for employing national censorship in that table (among the top 25 nations in the world), on a par with well-known censoring nations like Cuba, Egypt, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia but behind China, North Korea, Iran and a scattering of others.

                Frankly, there is very little that Opera (or anyone else) can do about national censorship... nations are sovereign and do what they want. Why a nation blocks one site but not another has all to do with their interpretation of what they wish to block from their citizens, the technical mechanisms used in blocking, and the persistence of the personnel in the blocking agencies. If Opera's websites are reachable by ordinary browsing from most other nations in the world but not from within Bangladesh (which is the case), it stands as proof that the Opera sites are being blocked (intentionally or otherwise) within Bangladesh. There is nothing Opera can do about that. That some other VPN services might be able to penetrate the censorship speaks more to the lack of thoroughness of their blocking mechanism by Bangladesh and the ability of those VPNs to jump ahead of the censors by frequently changing their IPs or using other technical means. Bypassing national blocking is a continual (and expensive) electronic war between blockers and VPN providers, and probably goes well beyond the limited purposes Opera has in supplying a VPN option in their browser.

                I don't work for Opera, but I don't see how (in practicality) Opera can conclusively determine on its own which nations are locally blocking its websites (including its VPN) since it doesn't reside physically in many of those nations and because the dynamics of who is blocking what change literally daily among nations. Moreover, nations that do block are usually very evasive about which specific sites they block for what reasons.

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                • leocg
                  leocg Moderator Volunteer @rakejake last edited by

                  @rakejake Confirm what? Opera can't confirm that their VPN is being blocked, they can just check if there are less connections to their servers from a certain region.

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                  • hellstra
                    hellstra @rakejake last edited by

                    @rakejake,

                    The following is the reason I don't believe Opera is at fault here:

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/comments/gv5gml/new_wave_of_website_ban/

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/comments/gvoza1/why_is_the_ict_minister_so_stupid_why_is_he/

                    -Access to reddit may or may not require a VPN, lol what a shitshow
                    -pinterest has been granted access again after the block

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                    • rakejake
                      rakejake @hellstra last edited by

                      @hellstra just checked the links. Regarding reddit I've found discrepencies. Some have access and a lot of others don't. However nobody is talking anything about Opera.

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                      • hellstra
                        hellstra @rakejake last edited by

                        @rakejake,

                        My point is that Opera stopped working right around the same time a new list of websites has been locally blocked. 🤔

                        Coincidence? I don't think so. Plus, it's been already confirmed in this thread that there's no ongoing issue on Opera's end concerning accessibility.

                        Now, whether you buy it or not is your call. Peace. 🙂

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                        • rakejake
                          rakejake @hellstra last edited by

                          @hellstra Don't worry dude :). Ain't contesting it no more. Just tryna say found no comment about Opera. It might very well be true what you are saying.

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