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  • I have an old computer that still has XP on it. I know the first (and second and third...) thing I'm going to be told is that I need to upgrade or DOOM & GLOOM!!!

    OK, can we please skip that part? This is what I have and right now I have very little money and upgrading isn't in my immediate future. I accept that it's not secure (is any version of Windows really secure?) and I'm willing to take the risk.

    I downloaded Opera 36.0.2130.80 because it's one of the most up to date browsers that still runs on XP. I hate Chrome, so please don't suggest that I switch to that.

    I also have an old version of Firefox and an Older version of Palemoon installed. Between them, I can visit pretty much any site I want, but there's one big problem; recpatcha no longer works on either of them. I click the box and nothing happens. Which is a problem as it seems that recaptcha is now the ONLY captcha that anyone is using. Sites used to use a variety of captchas, but now everyone is using recaptcha, even though it has a history of problems.

    recpatcha does work in this version of Opera, but that doesn't help me much when I can't even open the site itself.

    What sites? Well for one;

    https://nitroflare.com

    Trying to follow any download link to this site results in the error message that the site can't provide a secure connection.

    I really don't care if the connection is secure or not as I'm not transferring any important information. I just want to be able to access the site.

    Palemoon can open it just fine, but the recaptcha doesn't work. For that I need Opera, but Opera refuses to open the site.

    Here's another one that Opera won't open;

    https://cdromance.com/

    How do I fix this?

  • So you're saying the site itself works, but not downloads? Not sure why they'd use one security protocol for the site and another for links ... but that would have to be what is happening.

    As an aside, there are several versions of Linux that will run on XP=era hardware, if you wanted an up-to-date OS that will run on your hardware you do have options. Not that it'll run you favorite Windows software, but it could run a current browser.

  • @rekrul Try to use http:// instead of https://

  • @rekrul said in This site can't provide a secure connection:

    https://nitroflare.com

    That just redirects to http://nitroflare.com, which has no security. So, there shouldn't be any issues there. Not sure about the download links unless you have an example.

    @rekrul said in This site can't provide a secure connection:

    https://cdromance.com/

    Maybe that has to do with TLS 1.3 or something, which I don't think WinXP supports and Opera uses WinXP's network stack. Opera 36 doesn't give you an option on the error page to go to the site anyway?

    Your best bet is to use the last version of Firefox ESR (52 I think) that's supported on WinXP as it has its own network stack. If that version doesn't work with recaptcha, perhaps it's just a user-agent issue and you can find an extension to mask as a newer version of Firefox for the sites that use it.

  • @burnout426 said in This site can't provide a secure connection:

    Your best bet is to use the last version of Firefox ESR (52 I think) that's supported on WinXP as it has its own network stack. If that version doesn't work with recaptcha, perhaps it's just a user-agent issue and you can find an extension to mask as a newer version of Firefox for the sites that use it.

    Firefox 52.9 ESR + this User Agent Switcher extension to mask as Firefox 63 for Windows might be the combo you need.

  • Sorry I haven't been back for a while...

    Everyone seems to be misunderstanding the problem.

    OLD version of Firefox: Nitroflare and CDRomance open and display perfectly. Attempting to download anything requires you to pass reCAPTCHA, which doesn't work in this version.

    Pale Moon, last version for XP: Nitroflare and CDRomance open and display perfectly. Attempting to download anything requires you to pass reCAPTCHA, which doesn't work in this version.

    Opera: Nitroflare and CDRomance will NOT open. All I get is the error message that the site can't provide a secure connection. Changing to "http" does not help. Opera will not let me access any part of these sites.

    I am running into more and more sites that Opera refuses to open. In every case, Pale Moon and even my old version of Fire Fox display these sites just fine.

    The problem is that these sites rely on reCAPTCHA which refuses to work on anything other than the latest web browsers. Changing the user agent doesn't work, as reCAPTCHA is doing something that older versions of Firefox and Pale Moon don't support.

    Only Opera supports passing a reCAPTCHA challenge under XP, but that doesn't do me any good if Opera won't even open the site.

    How is that an older version of Pale Moon and even a version of Firefox that's now considered ancient can open Nitroflare and CDRomance just fine, but Opera claims it can't?

    It says it can't open a secure connection. Fine, I DO NOT CARE if the connection is secure. I just want it to open the site!

  • @rekrul There's something odd (and suspicious) going on with at least the Cdromance site. When walking through the process (using Opera 58.0.3135.65 under Win10) of exploring your downloading issue, clicking the download link for one of the "jewelry design" files as a test-case caused a porn-site pop-up/notification to suddenly appear instead. I report this both as a caution to anyone else visiting the site (in case there's something nefarious going on there), but also to indicate that whatever is going on may actually be interfering with the https handshaking related to the site (and any background Recaptcha activity).

    On a related note, the Cdromance site's https certificate implies that a system has to be able to handle the TLS v1.2 128 bit AES GCM ([256, 2048] bit ECDHE_ECDSA/SHA-256) protocol to successfully connect (I used Opera 12.18 for that test to force the site to offer probably its lowest-available security protocol to better emulate your XP situation). I'm unsure whether XP is natively capable of supporting that ECDHE_ECDSA encryption algorithm, in which case it wouldn't be able to go any further. The Nitroflare site seems to require a login to test downloading, so I didn't go any further with that.