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    Title bar removed from latest Opera on Ubu 16.04?

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    • vr51
      vr51 last edited by vr51

      Without the title bar the only way to close popup windows is to right-click the task in the desktop task bar. Give us our title bar back! Had we wanted less choice we would have gone for Mac or Windows OSs.

      Removing the app bar without asking first is a bit of a deal-breaker for this Linux user. I switched to Opera when Firefox started doing this kind of arrogant/inconsiderate stuff. Do I need to switch to Vivaldi or Brave as my default browser?

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      • vr51
        vr51 last edited by

        @jamesisin when the title bar was taken away a menu icon was put at left of the open tabs. I seem to recall (not certain) there was once an option to enable/disable the menu button in previous versions of Opera. I can't find a flag for it now so my guess is it would be hidden in a config file that might need to be manually edited.

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        • jamesisin
          jamesisin @vr51 last edited by

          @vr51 So, I don't use the Bookmarks bar. Regardless, even if I enable the bar I get no O menu. Either way this is a clear bug.

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          • jamesisin
            jamesisin @vr51 last edited by

            @vr51 Sorry, it's not next to my tabs either. Otherwise I would not open this thread.

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            • jamesisin
              jamesisin last edited by

              Why not just put a nice red O in the left pane above the other icons? This is essentially what's done on Windows.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by A Former User

                There is an "red O menu at the left side, above the other icons" ... if you set the sidebar as pinned

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                I think this is the default behavior/appearance of opera in all operating systems.
                However, I prefer to keep the sidebar unpinned and have this

                0_1535029360865_2018-08-23-155942_1280x1024_scrot.png

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                • jamesisin
                  jamesisin @Guest last edited by

                  @jimunderscorep [shakes head] No O

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by A Former User

                    Try unpinning the sidebar. I have nothing else to suggest.

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                    • jamesisin
                      jamesisin @Guest last edited by

                      @jimunderscorep Are you running the latest Opera on Ubuntu 16.04? I am seeing this same behavior on at least three similar systems. This is pretty clearly a bug.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by A Former User

                        I am running the latest stable opera in openbox (under debian testing x64).

                        I was a gnome user once, until gnome 2.28 was released, like ~9 years ago, but I stopped using it when it became too dumbed down for me. As the english say, I have not touched gnome 3.x with a ten-foot pole.
                        I was also an ubuntu user ~11 years ago.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Being able to shade/rollup windows (mouse wheel on title bar) is a must have !
                          Without window title bar : we are back to the 1990's... I'm leaving Opera for Firefox waiting the bug to be fixed.

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                          • a-n-w
                            a-n-w last edited by

                            The title bar seems to showing in the Windows style even though it's on Ubuntu. This only started happening recently. Is it a bug or do I need to change some setting?
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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              No, it is a well known and reported issue of v55 which has not been fixed yet, despite the 2 or 3 minor updates to v55 since then.
                              The ugly window decorations also exist in opera beta and developer versions as well, v56 and v57 respectively.

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                                • jamesisin
                                  jamesisin last edited by

                                  Several updates later and still no change.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    +1 for native window decorations!

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      Why all those software companies put effort into what has no need fixing/changing? Constant UI changes, unnecessary and distracting animations, background videos, oversized icons, massive open space - all things which does not help productivity at all.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Because "they know better than you".
                                        Plus, when the changes from one major version to another are almost zero for the average user (e.g. opera 58, compared to 57, ONLY introduced the option to "warn before closing multiple tabs" and nothing more), you realize that something that classifies as "less important stuff" for you is a "major improvement" for the dev.
                                        Altering the csd buttons just for linux will probably mean they will have a different code for them (= the buttons) to maintain for all future releases.

                                        I think I will make a thread on "what still bugs me with opera" so I can share my thoughts with everyone else in here...

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                                        • jamesisin
                                          jamesisin last edited by

                                          Eight months after my original post and still no change. No menus. No O menu. Clearly a major bug. Worst published mistake from Opera since I started using it in, what?, 1998? Quite appalling.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Yesterday, I remembered that this thing exists
                                            https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd

                                            It is supposed to disable csd on apps that support it. And it does work, mainly with gnome apps, but it does not work on opera. Launcing opera like so

                                            gtk3-nocsd opera

                                            just launches another instace of opera, with the csd.
                                            This makes me assume opera's csd is as hardcoded as the gtk theme it uses, so there will be no change anytime soon.

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