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    Title bar removed from latest Opera on Ubu 16.04?

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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      Being able to shade/rollup windows (mouse wheel on title bar) is a must have !
      Without window title bar : we are back to the 1990's... I'm leaving Opera for Firefox waiting the bug to be fixed.

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      • a-n-w
        a-n-w last edited by

        The title bar seems to showing in the Windows style even though it's on Ubuntu. This only started happening recently. Is it a bug or do I need to change some setting?
        0_1535705656880_titlebar.png

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          No, it is a well known and reported issue of v55 which has not been fixed yet, despite the 2 or 3 minor updates to v55 since then.
          The ugly window decorations also exist in opera beta and developer versions as well, v56 and v57 respectively.

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          • gleycon
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            • jamesisin
              jamesisin last edited by

              Several updates later and still no change.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                +1 for native window decorations!

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Why all those software companies put effort into what has no need fixing/changing? Constant UI changes, unnecessary and distracting animations, background videos, oversized icons, massive open space - all things which does not help productivity at all.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    Because "they know better than you".
                    Plus, when the changes from one major version to another are almost zero for the average user (e.g. opera 58, compared to 57, ONLY introduced the option to "warn before closing multiple tabs" and nothing more), you realize that something that classifies as "less important stuff" for you is a "major improvement" for the dev.
                    Altering the csd buttons just for linux will probably mean they will have a different code for them (= the buttons) to maintain for all future releases.

                    I think I will make a thread on "what still bugs me with opera" so I can share my thoughts with everyone else in here...

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                    • jamesisin
                      jamesisin last edited by

                      Eight months after my original post and still no change. No menus. No O menu. Clearly a major bug. Worst published mistake from Opera since I started using it in, what?, 1998? Quite appalling.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Yesterday, I remembered that this thing exists
                        https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd

                        It is supposed to disable csd on apps that support it. And it does work, mainly with gnome apps, but it does not work on opera. Launcing opera like so

                        gtk3-nocsd opera

                        just launches another instace of opera, with the csd.
                        This makes me assume opera's csd is as hardcoded as the gtk theme it uses, so there will be no change anytime soon.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Just to say that they RUINED the browser on Linux with the CSD choice.
                          I am asking myself how has been possible possible to make such a radical, counterproductive and absolutely wrong choice. It costs about nothing to allow who wants it to show the titlebar.
                          Why remove it to get an app looking so bad that one wants only to remove it just to not even have the possibility to look at it.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            I am a long-time Opera user, and I have been very much satisfied with this piece of software, that I've been using on Windows. But now as I am moving to Linux on my home machine, I just realized, that the CSD of the Opera window while fits in well with the Windows 10 UI design, it ruins the consistency of the look on the Linux desktop.
                            I wish the option came back to use the title bar. I love Opera, but just looks so out of place on my Linux desktop 😞

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                            • gleycon
                              gleycon last edited by

                              back to native window decorations! PLEASE!!!

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User @gleycon last edited by

                                @gleycon If you are tired of Opera's lay-out nowadays it is possible to get the Otter Browser. Controlled by the user, not vice versa. It's a rather new browser and goes back to the best aspects of the classic Opera (12.x) UI using Qt5. It's not as big as Opera today, but however it can be a good answer to less development on your favourite browser..

                                Less is beautiful!! 😄

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                                • jamesisin
                                  jamesisin last edited by

                                  A year. Pathetic. What happened?

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Obviously, the devs have no interest in fixing it.

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                                    • jamesisin
                                      jamesisin @Guest last edited by

                                      @jimunderscorep No doubt. But when did they give up on us?

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User @jamesisin last edited by

                                        @jamesisin

                                        I am no expert on this subject but I do use Opera on three Ubuntu boxes on different multi-boot combinations of a few different Ubuntu and Opera releases and desktops. The title bar/menu options seem to differ, some have the Opera Button at top left on, some do not and so on.

                                        What I can say is that so far double-clicking the sidebar (even totally empty) toggles between full screen and back and the tile/menu bar then appears on all of mine. A bit of a nuisance but if it works for you and you love Opera it gets by.

                                        However, I do hang with LTS Ubuntu releases, and it does seem that the Opera Button itself MIGHT agree with Gnome more than Unity- but of that I am not sure.

                                        Since the double-click works for me in all cases SO FAR , I just use that on my Unity installs.

                                        Good luck.

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                                        • jamesisin
                                          jamesisin @Guest last edited by

                                          @oldrivers I have no menus. I can move back and forth from full screen in many ways. I need menus to get to other functions which live in menus.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User @jamesisin last edited by

                                            @jamesisin
                                            Sorry, I believe that I misunderstood your original note. I thought that you simply did not like the menu being in the "top of screen" position rather than the application's title bar (I'm with you on that) so i suggested that the double-click on the Opera side panel was at least the easy way to switch back and forth and get the menu when needed. The "O" button was there at one point but that seems to have been abandoned.

                                            At any rate, on my system settings/appearance/behavior the "in the menu bar" & "always displayed" does at least work for Opera, but the fact that it then puts every program's menu there (that does not have a menu "button") at the screen top means that I stick with "windows title bar" & "always displayed" that and just do the double-click for Opera, for me the easiest way to toggle full screen.

                                            On my boxes (combinations of 16.04, 18.04 Unity and Gnome) Chrome on most boxes seems to be operating like Opera with no window menu, Firebird and Chromium work just fine, Vivaldi uses a menu button. I have a few other browsers and Windows 10 but this note is far too long already..

                                            At least I can get it title bars somewhere on them all. Bummer for you.

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