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Version 20/21 Increase tab text font size

  • I'm not quite sure how you go back to Opera 20 either

    To go back to a previous version/build just delete the folder with the newest one. Don't forget to close Opera first.

  • I have just installed Opera 21, and the only thing I am not satisfied with is the font size. Will going back to 20 increase the font size significantly? I went from an older version to 21, so I have not tried 20.
    Of course the developpers should fix this as soon as possible. The solutions mentioned in this thread is not possible in my version of Win 7.

  • @casenet

    You mean you can't adjust the Display, or "Message Box," or "Menu" in your Windows 7, through the personalize feature? I thought it was available in all versions of Windows 7. I'm assuming on font size you're not comfortable changing the font in Opera through the Zoom feature in the Opera menu, or, if you have your advanced keyboard activated, pressing from the keyboard 0 to make font larger, or a 9 to make it smaller. (Without the advanced keyboard function set, I believe the shortcut for making fonts larger is + and smaller -

    Some people have said that the size of fonts/menus, etc. changed from Opera 20 to 21, but I don't think everyone experienced that. I did post in this thread a link to Opera 20 in case you want to uninstall what you have and try that.

  • Thanks for answer Lem. Readability and and font size are very good in Opera 21, except for bookmarks and menus. I am an experienced user of both windows and linux, and if there is something I cannot do, it is either impossible, or for very advanced users. In this case I suspect there is no solution to the problem, except using both 21 and an older version on the same computer. I have older versions of Opera on one win 8.1 laptop and one Linux laptop, so I will manage. Using any other browser than Opera is, of course, out of the question.

  • For my computer, I was able to adjust."menus" through the Windows 7 personalization feature in this thread, and i did make my menus larger. it did work for me. It wasn't that hard, but the feature you had to get to, to adjust was a bit hidden. After you right click on a blank spot on your Windows home screen, and click on Personalize in the context menu of your Windows 7, you go to the bottom of a screen and see something called, "Windows Color." If you click on that (it sort of hides things), there's an item drop-down of settings you can change. One of them was menu or menus. (I'm not at my desktop right now, so am describing this from memory). I changed my menu fornt from 9 to 10, and it helped me. You have to make sure you save any changes in a few different places or you lose the setting.

    As for bookmarks, there are a number of bookmark manager extensions which can give a drop-down menu, where everything is easier to see. You might want to look into that. Anyway, sorry i haven't been really able to help more. Best of luck. It's no fun if the menus are too small.

  • It is possible that casaet is using Windows 7 Starter Edition, which has extremely limited customisation options.

  • Thank you for mentioning that. It's possible that he has an edition where he cannot make the adjustment. I'm not famliar enough with the Starter edition to know what it permits and what it doesn't. But I was thinking of another reason why he might be having a problem.. I was trying to explain how, even though I could access items for changing the size of things, the location of the ability to do that was pretty hidden. It was not intuitive. Once again, Microsoft outdid itself 🙂 They have a lot of wonderful software, but sometimes, it's too much a technician's hidden wonderland.

    By the way, I was not at my computer when I tried to explain it in my last post, and I am now, so for casaet, or any one else who might like to adjust the size of menus, or other features in Windows, let me try once more to describe how to do this.

    First, you right click on an empty space on the Windows Desktop to get the Personalize option, and you select it. Then you click on Window Color (at the bottom of the tile that comes up). After you do that, you get a tile with menu options, at the bottom of which is something called, "Advanced Appearance Settings." That's the key choice. You need to click on that. And then, a new Windows tile (rectangle) comes up to the left, and under "Item," you can select what you want to adjust as an item. Browzer1 initially focused us on Message Box (which is worth looking at). There are other choices. I was suggesting that he change the font of the item, "Menu." That one will help with his menus in Opera (and elsewhere in Windows) being too small. And he would have to be careful to save what he changes the menu font to in a number of places. I was happy to discover -- thanks to the help of browzer1 -- the ability to adjust a number of items, including the menu. If people have windows 7, and any discomfort with the size of fonts/the menus, etc., there's a goldmine here. But as you so rightly suggest, it's possible the edition of Windows 7 doesn't support making the changes.

  • Lem, you have got it right. I just managed to miss the Advanced appearance settings. Now I have everything adjusted the way I want it, except the fonts on the bookmark bar. But when you use folders, the fonts in the dropdown menus can be adjusted. So not a problem.

  • YESSSS, that's super @Casaet. You can change the size or appearance of the bookmarks too (if at some point you want to play with that setting). I know sure what you mean by, "when you use folders, the fonts in the dropdown menus can be adjusted. So not a problem." This time, if you want to play with adjusting the caption of the bookmarks, just adjust "Message Box" in the items of the drop-down menu (after you click on Advance Appearance Settings) (which is part of Microsoft's Personalize feature). I just did it, and just to test, increased font size from 9-11, and selected bold. My bookmarks are all bold now. 🙂 Now I don't want them that way, so I'll change it back, but I may make a modest increase in size for myself too, from 9 - 10 in font size. Just to tweak it 🙂 After you save everything in a few places, (if you decide to play with this feature) make sure you close Opera, and then open it again. :)) And also, make sure you don't lose your menu change that you made and liked, and that these changes don't make you unhappy with how the rest of Windows looks. Anyway, you can always undo this stuff if you're unhappy.

  • Where is the "message Box" in Win 8.1?

  • I don't use Windows 8, but here's something you can look at and see if it helps. It relates to Windows 8 and 8.1.

  • Thanks, but doesn't seem to work as I would want. I want to selectively increase the fonts of the Opera menus, not anything else. Probably have to wait for a future update.
    It is a bit funny how developers don't seem to be aware of the increase in screen resolution during the last few years, and scale program components accordingly.

  • @teskjerpe HiDPI support is being worked on.

  • Are they also working on following windows zoom option because as it is now, 100% keeps the font size the exact same size as 150% while everything else in opera is bigger.

  • @sankook

    I can't quite follow what you're saying. There's a Windows Zoom and Opera Zoom? You say "100% keeps the font size the
    exact same size as 150% while everything else in opera is bigger." It's confusing me, your mix of Opera Zoom and Windows Zoom? Windows Zoomed to what? 150 percent? And if you set Opera Zoom at 100 percent what does that do. Why would everything in Opera, except for the font size be bigger than 150 percent, if the Windows Zoom is 150 percent. I'm just a bit lost here, so can't (though I'm sure I'm at fault here for being dense) follow the issue.

  • Opera has a zoom option for webpages only, this doesn't affect the UI at all, only the webpages content.

    Windows has a text zoom option(not sure what to call it exactly) that will make all text and the menu around them bigger and the new thing opera use for text(forgot what it's called) totally ignores it and stay the same size(which is why I'm sticking with v20), but the menu around the text still gets bigger when the zoom is increased.

    Here's what the option in windows looks like:

    Windows zoom

  • You have in that Windows setting for text and icons, (other items maybe also) set at what? 150 percent? (I take it you're not using the magnifier). Now Opera has that Zoom feature for webpage content. And also that HiDPI display support.

    Now here's what you said: "Are they also working on following windows zoom option because as it is now, 100% keeps the font size the exact same size as 150% while everything else in opera is bigger."

    But if the Windows Zoom is set at 150 percent, what did you mean by: 100 percent (presumably the Opera zoom setting) "keeps the font size the exact same size as 150 percent," while everything else in opera is bigger." It's that last part that's confusing. Why is everything elese bigger. Maybe it's bigger [greater than 150 percent] because of HiDPI display support, if you activated it in Opera 20. You know, though, that's it's no longer in Opera 22.

    Anyway, it's not that important if I can't follow it, except I was worried that maybe others can't. If you have a concern, it's a Suggestion Box (forum) issue to raise,and I know you understand it, but wasn't sure you described it clearly.

  • Lastest Developer's build has (a little) bigger font for the menus.

  • Yeah, it's probably not very clear, what I mean by "everything else" is the gray background for the menu, that gets bigger(the gray area is taking more space) even if the text doesn't.

    The opera zoom has nothing to do with it at all, by 100% being the same size as 150%, I mean if I toggle the windows text zoom from 100% to 150%, the size of the menus font in opera will not change size even though they should which is the only important thing to understand.

    So the gray area is affected by the 100% to 150% change as it should, but the text isn't. Nothing is greater than 150% and no, I haven't activated HiDPI support(I'm using a 720p 32" TV, not exactly high DPI).