Linux 32 bit developed?

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

I feel you. I have dell's answer to the eeepc, a dell mini 9, which I use as a media player with kodi (openelec). Its 32bit-only cpu (atom n270) and its small drive forces me to have an old version of openelec (5.x), with an old version of kodi (14.x), old enough that most addons do not work properly or at all anymore. Hoever, I keep it because I do not have the money to upgrade to something better.

As for the pointless update notification, it happens because it checks at some upstream version number online, not at what really exists in the repo. Sadly, there is no workaround for it, neither via opera://flags, nor via some command line switch.

May I ask what keeps you in opera? You could move to chromium for instance...

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

disable update notification use parametr --disable-update
run: opera --disable-update

[kghn]

kghn @Guest last edited by

@nikt11 ? I just downloaded Opera for Xubuntu Linux 32 bit yesterday and got version 12.16 . It says it's up to date, but the Themes utility doesn't recognize it. Where did you find 45? The .deb installer I downloaded from opera.com didn't work, so I followed the instructions at https://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/10/hot-to-install-opera-in-xubuntu.html : cd && wget -O opera.key http://deb.opera.com/archive.key && sudo apt-key add opera.key && rm opera.key && echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera -y

[A Former User]

A Former User @kghn last edited by A Former User

@kghn "The .deb installer I downloaded from opera.com didn't work" what does that mean, what are the errors?
I downloaded opera 45 from ftp: https://ftp.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/desktop/45.0.2552.898/linux/ and install on Debian 9.2: dpkg -i opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
Everything works fine. Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linux

[kghn]

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@nikt11 when I open it, there's an install button. I click it, and it seems to react, and there's drive activity, but pretty soon it reverts to the unclicked-looking install button and never does anything more. No error message. Opera did not appear in the Xubuntu "mousehead" menu. I tried a couple of times. I'm not sure where to find an install log, if it writes one.

[A Former User]

A Former User @kghn last edited by A Former User

@kghn try install from console:
sudo dpkg -i opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
and see error messages

[kghn]

kghn @Guest last edited by

@nikt11 Thanks for your help so far! Here's my terminal text. I had to tell it where to find the file:
gary@Desktop1:~$ sudo dpkg -i opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
[sudo] password for gary:
dpkg: error processing archive opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
gary@Desktop1:~$ ls
Desktop Documents Downloads Music Pictures Public Templates Videos
...trying again...
gary@Desktop1:~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Maintenance/opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb
Selecting previously unselected package opera-stable.
dpkg: considering removing opera in favour of opera-stable ...
dpkg: yes, will remove opera in favour of opera-stable
(Reading database ... 226820 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386.deb ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/firefox to provide /usr/bin/x-www-browser (x-www-browser) in auto mode
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/firefox to provide /usr/bin/gnome-www-browser (gnome-www-browser) in auto mode
Unpacking opera-stable (45.0.2552.898) ...
Setting up opera-stable (45.0.2552.898) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/opera to provide /usr/bin/x-www-browser (x-www-browser) in auto mode
update-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/share/man/man1/x-www-browser.1.gz because associated file /usr/share/man/man1/opera.1.gz (of link group x-www-browser) doesn't exist
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/opera to provide /usr/bin/gnome-www-browser (gnome-www-browser) in auto mode
update-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-www-browser.1.gz because associated file /usr/share/man/man1/opera.1.gz (of link group gnome-www-browser) doesn't exist
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-6ubuntu3.1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu5.1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.59ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-0ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.5-2ubuntu0.1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
gary@Desktop1:~$

It seemed to install ok, but on launch, I get an error window titled "Ubuntu" that says "The application Opera has closed unexpectedly." When I click the Details button, it says ExecutablePath /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/opera/opera and the processing swirly took a long time. Then: Package opera-stable 45.0.2552.898 [origin: Opera Software ASA]; ProblemType Crash; Title opera crashed with SIGILL; ApportVersion 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.10; Architecture i386; CoreDump actually says "(binary data)"; CurrentDesktop XFCE; Date Sat Nov 11 16:19:28 2017; Dependencies (has a long list, won't let me copy) ... much much more including JournalErrors ACPI Warning (several) and a long list of other items; ...UnreportableReason This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
Relaunch button gave same error window.

I suspect version 45 needs something my machine doesn't have - more memory, ESS2, ? - or maybe I need to change some BIOS setting. The BIOS is still configured for XP, and Opera 12 seemed happy. Is there an Opera version between 12.16 and 45 that might be more appropriate? Or can you coach me to get this one working? Thanks again for your attention to my plight.

[sgunhouse]

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How much RAM does your system have?

[pindos]

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@jimunderscorep said in Linux 32 bit developed?:

May I ask what keeps you in opera? You could move to chromium for instance...

I like Opera and use it for a 15 years. And does Chromium have support for 32 bit cpu for Linux?
It,s very sad. I have EeePC 1003, I've upgraded it to 2GB of RAM, replaced HDD with Intel SSD 240 Gb and Wi-Fi Adapter. And only CPU is weak thing in this machine.

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

@pindos
Unlike chrome, chromium is opensource, so distros package it in both 32 and 64 bits, so yes, chromium is available in 32bit.
Which distro do you use?

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

I'm fine with old version. But every update of chromium-codes breaks it. Is there any way around this without keeping old codecs with security vulnerabilities? (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS i386 here)

[kghn]

kghn @sgunhouse last edited by

@sgunhouse I'm working with an older machine (AMD Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 640M RAM, (originally ran XP) now running Xubuntu 16.04.3 LTS 32-bit. I've got a topic open at https://forums.opera.com/topic/23262/xubuntu-16-opera-12-16-browser-menu-stubborn-light-green-text-problem-how-change , and you just posted a good lead there for me. My plan for the next thing to try is to remove Opera and Firefox, install a desktop theme, re-install Opera 12.16, and report in with my results.

[pindos]

pindos @Guest last edited by

@jimunderscorep said in Linux 32 bit developed?:

Unlike chrome, chromium is opensource, so distros package it in both 32 and 64 bits, so yes, chromium is available in 32bit.
Which distro do you use?

I use Xubuntu 16.04.

[A Former User]

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@pindos
Then you can install it with
sudo apt-get install chromium

[pindos]

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@jimunderscorep
Thank you! I'll try.

[pindos]

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@jimunderscorep
This command doesn't work.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package chromium is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
chromium-bsu

E: Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

My bad, the package is named chromium-browser, so the right command is

sudo apt-get install chromium-browser

[pindos]

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@jimunderscorep said in Linux 32 bit developed?:

sudo apt-get install chromium-browser

That's right! Thank you! I installed it.

[pindos]

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@nikt11 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:

run: opera --disable-update

Thank you! It works!

[A Former User]

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@nikt11 said in Linux 32 bit developed?:

I know and I use Vivaldi, but still much short of Opera. Unfortunately, on an old laptop I have no choice but to stay Vivaldi.

How does Vivaldi compares to Opera? Is this exactly the same JavaScript, CSS and DOM support? I need to be able to test for Chrome like browser and I only have a 32 bits machine, so if Vivaldi uses the same core as Chrome and Opera, that’s enough for me (I just hope it can import Opera’s bookmarks).