[OPERA MAIL] Is this product discontinued?
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linguaoccultus last edited by
Hey there,
is anyone havin any informations about Opera Mail and if it will get further development or not?
Since it was ripped out of version 12.xx and became stand-alone, it stayed on it's very first version wich IS A COLLECTION OF BUGS OF ALL KINDS to mention it by its name.
I just want to kno if i have to look for another mail client or if further wating for updates makes any sense. However, all my attempts to get an official statement where just ignore whoever or wherever i ask (and i thought the companies have learned about communication policies these days ... semme there is an exclamation from everything, huh?).
So, does anybody know anything about this?
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
There's been no news from Opera at all on this. Consider it dead unless Opera says otherwise. Thunderbird is nice.
Since it was ripped out of version 12.xx and became stand-alone
Opera Mail 1.0 is just Opera 12.16 with some browser parts hidden. This means that you can just use Opera 12.16 for mail since it doesn't have all the bugs Opera Mail 1.0 has. But, in "Alt + p -> advanced -> programs", just set up the http and https protocols to open in the default browser.
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blackbird71 last edited by
Considering that all things Presto appear to have been deprecated, debugging or feature-addition of a Presto-based Opera desktop product is not something I'd hold my breath waiting for. Of course, Opera could always suprise us all... but that's not how I'd ever bet. @burnout426 has the best suggestion if you want to stick with Opera for eMail in the future, I believe, since the mail feature still works OK in the Presto Opera browsers... even if you never really use the web-browser part of it.
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Deleted User last edited by
Agree with both burnout and blackbird. Furthermore, I'd download and install T-bird anyway and export my mail (even though I decided to stick with Opera mail) "just in case" it goes belly up by complete discontinuance. Better to be on the safe side.
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linguaoccultus last edited by
Guys, thanks for all the informations and suggestions. I don't know, i do not receive email notifications from the forum here even when activated, so i did not know someone has answered!
The thing that really worries me is, that there is no information policy on the future plans with the mail client. It would be enough to know that there will be such a thing in the future so i would stay with the bugged thing for so long instead of using another one and than maybe have to switch back again. Conversion of mails and adress books can be troublesome and much manual work in the end sometimes.
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07y05m24d last edited by
Windows Live Mail 2011 (for XP) and Windows Live Mail 2012 (for Vista/7/8)
http://www.bing.com/search?q=download+windows+live+mail+2011&form=OPRTSD&pc=OPER
http://www.bing.com/search?q=download+windows+live+mail+2012&form=OPRTSD&pc=OPERThen of course, there is Thunderbird...
http://www.bing.com/search?q=download+mozilla+thunderbird&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=download+mozilla+thunderbirdWindows Live Mail's database is stored...
Reg.Exe QUERY "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail" /v "Store Root"
which typically points back to "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail"Be sure to backup that folder (and registry key) whenever you attempt to upgrade from one version to the next. Make sure you keep the original files used to setup these programs; even if you're updating to a new version.
Same goes for Thunderbird and Opera Mail... export your contacts and if possible, mail. Then backup (copy) their respective database files. When something goes wrong, you'll have the necessary files and settings to recover the program back to it's previous state. Export/Import processes often don't go smoothly. Pertinent data gets dropped or misplaced. I've had to use Excel, Quattro or Base to modify exported data files in order to get them to import properly to the next program or version.
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linguaoccultus last edited by
Thanks a lot for all the suggestion; most of them were already known to me, but i liked Opera Mail a lot. However, the tons of bugs are really a problem! -.- And since no one knows more about the development question and Opera Software keeps telling us nothing, what are you guys experiences with the lesser known mail clients like "The Bat" and such? There are still several out there but it mostly is better to ask the user instead of reading just an applications description. Maybe anything lightweight and simple but with all the essential features like Opera Mail? Who uses what and why?
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blackbird71 last edited by
Thanks a lot for all the suggestion; most of them were already known to me, but i liked Opera Mail a lot. However, the tons of bugs are really a problem! -.- And since no one knows more about the development question and Opera Software keeps telling us nothing, what are you guys experiences with the lesser known mail clients like "The Bat" and such? There are still several out there but it mostly is better to ask the user instead of reading just an applications description. Maybe anything lightweight and simple but with all the essential features like Opera Mail? Who uses what and why?
One good thing about eMail software is that it doesn't change much, if at all. My own eMail software (Pocomail) works superbly, yet it hasn't been updated since 2009 and is no longer available - but it works just fine, and I expect it to for years to come.
I'd suggest downloading and trying out several brands... The Bat, Thunderbird, and Pegasus are all good candidates if you really want to replace Opera. But Opera itself is hard to beat as well, for that matter - particularly if you use the original one built into a Presto browser, rather than the stand-alone M2 version that seems to have developed some hiccups/limitations resulting from the break-out. Even if you never use the browser portion again or if it gets totally obsoleted, the eMail part of it will run just fine, probably forever. Since you've liked using it in the past, why change? Just go back to using the eMail part of your old Opera browser.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
what are you guys experiences with the lesser known mail clients
I like Sylpheed a lot. I don't use it myself because it's missing a few IMAP features that I like (IDLE for example). There's Claws Mail too, which is based on Sylpheed.
Mulberry is a great IMAP client. But, it's pretty old, no longer maintained, and its preferences UI is a mess.
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Deleted User last edited by
So, just to be clear, it is possible to have Opera 12.XX and Opera 20+ installed at the same time, on the same computer, with no partitions? Other than the default programs suggestion from burnout, is there anything else I need to know about running both at the same time?
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stng last edited by
Standalone Opera mail is a dead application. It's nothing more than stipped down Opera 12 browser. They even threw away the mouse gesture support (i think that customizable gestures is one of the most useful features in Opera mail). There are ZERO improvements over integrated mail-client in Opera Presto. I rather use original Opera browser with integrated mail client(the greatest all-in-one internet suite ever developed), not this abnormation.
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A Former User last edited by
Agreed. There is nothing to gain from installing the standalone mail client — just use the Old Opera version for mail even if you use the new one for browsing.
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linguaoccultus last edited by
@sydneyneto: This program has SO many bugs, it nearly is senseless to try to fix them! However, i have your solution from the expired forums (i guess):
This registry entries connect Opera Mail with the corresponding protocols like it should do by itself:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaMail.protocol]
@="OperaMail.protocol"[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaMail.protocol\DefaultIcon]
@="C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Mail\operamail.exe,0"[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaMail.protocol\shell]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaMail.protocol\shell\open]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OperaMail.protocol\shell\open\command]
@=""C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Mail\operamail.exe" "%1""
If you don't like it's wrongly set name, use:
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\StartMenuInternet\OperaMail\Capabilities"
and edit the "ApplicationName" freely.
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linguaoccultus last edited by
To all the other guys: thanks for the suggestions! I will make a list of it and have a look at all of them. However, i use the standalone Opera Mail because is use the Blink-Opera and using more than one browser together can be troublesome at times (and i don't need two browsers but one mail application ^^). However, i understood your suggestion and will keep it in mind also. Thanks a lot so far!