Opera 20 - Another unhappy loyal supporter
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alreadybanned last edited by
There are a lot of distinctions between Opera and Chrome, but you "already banned" don't want to hear them. You complain about a lack of control, but don't want extensions. You can't have it every which way.. The fact is extra functionality comes via extension now, unless you want Internet Explorer. There's the Opera store -- and I have a good number of those extensions -- and the Chrome store. Now I don't dislike the Chrome browser. I prefer it to Firefox at this point. It's faster, cleaner in look . . . I prefer Opera to either. It gives the benefit of the Chrome engine, without the Google direction or the Google account. It gives an unequaled Speed Dial, and other attractive features for me.
I've never said I have issue with extensions, I use Cyberfox after all. What I've clearly stated is that I don't want to have to go to the Chrome store to get them, BIG difference. It would be better if Opera's own repository offered more instead of forcing me to rely on Google, a strange bed fellow indeed for the "the fastest and free alternative browser".
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A Former User last edited by
It would be better if Opera's own repository offered more instead of forcing me to rely on Google
The developers of the extensions must then upload their extensions to Opera's add-ons catalog. Ask them, not Opera. Don't try to twist how reality works. -
lem729 last edited by
I don't know the area but took a quick look at the Chrome store and saw a few things (maybe you've already seen) but if not, you might want to check them out, and see if any of them can at all help you. I've used some Chrome extensions with Opera, and generally had no problem with them. To use a Chrome extension, you need first the Opera extension, "Download Chrome Extension." https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/?display=en
There's BBCode Paste
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bbcodepaste/gendnhpciglkoaccpighggnohmmogfnp?hl=en-US
BBcode insert
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bbcodeinsert/fhckbmeeagkjnabhfaindkhmofncedln?hl=en
WysiBB - WYSIWYG BBcode editor
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wysibb-wysiwyg-bbcode-edi/hhjndhcbbnkoopmgdlcpdbnegjkglbhh
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lexsmenu last edited by
lem729
i have try them and that BBcode paste is just a copy paste tool, i can do that from notepad and bbCodeInsert might be right tool if you can create a custom BBcode, at the moment i use Auto Text Expander ( this is a tool that insert a BBCode when i type a pre-set kind of word) i still struggle to find something similar to BBcodextra or a custom text insert tool, so i don't understand this lack of extensions for opera. what i need basically is to be able to add a custom text or BBcode so when i right click, that option to be available and be able to insert
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lem729 last edited by
Sorry, lexsmenu. I didn't know if you had looked in the Chrome store, and what you are doing is not an area I know much about, so I looked for a few things that related to BB, hoping something might help. I'm hopeful more will come to the Opera store in the future. I have noticed recently a few extensions added that are new for it. So sorry you cannot find what you need right now.
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alreadybanned last edited by
It would be better if Opera's own repository offered more instead of forcing me to rely on Google
The developers of the extensions must then upload their extensions to Opera's add-ons catalog. Ask them, not Opera. Don't try to twist how reality works.No twisting needed. Like I said, one most go to the Chrome store. That is the reality of the situation and your vailed attempts at pointing the finger isn't going to change that.
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A Former User last edited by
It would be better if Opera's own repository offered more instead of forcing me to rely on Google
The developers of the extensions must then upload their extensions to Opera's add-ons catalog. Ask them, not Opera. Don't try to twist how reality works.No twisting needed. Like I said, one most go to the Chrome store. That is the reality of the situation and your vailed attempts at pointing the finger isn't going to change that.
And your point is still reduced to nothing, applause for you! -
lem729 last edited by
No, I have a long list of Opera extensions, I like, already banned, and which I've downloaded. Don't distort things. We have the Opera Store and the Chrome Store. That's creates double possibilities. It's a PLUS.
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alreadybanned last edited by
It would be better if Opera's own repository offered more instead of forcing me to rely on Google
The developers of the extensions must then upload their extensions to Opera's add-ons catalog. Ask them, not Opera. Don't try to twist how reality works.No twisting needed. Like I said, one most go to the Chrome store. That is the reality of the situation and your vailed attempts at pointing the finger isn't going to change that.
And your point is still reduced to nothing, applause for you!By what exactly, you haven't said anything that factually counters what I've said? Seeing your spamming of other sites makes it clear just how much of a zealot you are though because once again I, like others, talk about the browser and trolls like yourself can ONLY attack the posters and not offer anything of substance in regards to the subject matter. Well done, again
No, I have a long list of Opera extensions, I like, already banned, and which I've downloaded. Don't distort things. We have the Opera Store and the Chrome Store. That's creates double possibilities. It's a PLUS.
I've already stated that I do not want to use the Chrome store for many reasons so that does not double my options. What I am is forced to go to the Chrome store or make due with Opera's small repository of extensions. I don't see that as a plus at all. I also don't see how such a entrenching to Google makes Opera an alternative anything
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lem729 last edited by
I know, already banned, you're a total Chrome hater, so anything related to it freaks you out. Smile. I have no problem using a Chrome extension, if it's good. i'm delighted to. And of course the Opera store is increasingly offering more extensions, some which are quite wonderful, and which I could not find in the Chrome store.. And so, the ability to use both stores can only be a greater and greater resource for the Oppera community. i think there's reason to feel excited about the state of the browser and where it's going.
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A Former User last edited by
Seeing your spamming of other sites makes it clear just how much of a zealot you are though because once again I, like others, talk about the browser and trolls like yourself can ONLY attack the posters and not offer anything of substance in regards to the subject matter.
Saying I go off-topic talking about users instead of the browser (and with no example attached) then shouting personal attacks at me? Yeah, thanks for making sure everyone knows who is hypocrite here!By what exactly, you haven't said anything that factually counters what I've said? (...)
What I am is forced to go to the Chrome store or make due with Opera's small repository of extensions. I also don't see how such a entrenching to Google makes Opera an alternative anything
I'm sorry, I should have know you're illiterate... You can't understand the simple fact that you're relying on the Chrome Extensions catalog because the EXTENSION DEVELOPERS didn't upload their extensions to Opera's Extensions catalog. -
alreadybanned last edited by
I know, already banned, you're a total Chrome hater, so anything related to it freaks you out. Smile. I have no problem using a Chrome extension, if it's good. i'm delighted to. And of course the Opera store is increasingly offering more extensions, some which are quite wonderful, and which I could not find in the Chrome store.. And so, the ability to use both stores can only be a greater and greater resource for the Oppera community. i think there's reason to feel excited about the state of the browser and where it's going.
Agreed, for some, but not all. That's where the issue for Presto users and indeed other browser users comes into place because there are a good many people out their who want to wash their hands of anything Google.
Time will tell but right now and at the pace Opera is moving, a positive future experience with me and this iteration is hard to see
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alreadybanned last edited by
Seeing your spamming of other sites makes it clear just how much of a zealot you are though because once again I, like others, talk about the browser and trolls like yourself can ONLY attack the posters and not offer anything of substance in regards to the subject matter.
Saying I go off-topic talking about users instead of the browser (and with no example attached) then shouting personal attacks at me? Yeah, thanks for making sure everyone knows who is hypocrite here!
By what exactly, you haven't said anything that factually counters what I've said? (...)
What I am is forced to go to the Chrome store or make due with Opera's small repository of extensions. I also don't see how such a entrenching to Google makes Opera an alternative anything
I'm sorry, I should have know you're illiterate... You can't understand the simply fact that you're relying on the Chrome Extensions catalog because the EXTENSION DEVELOPERS didn't upload their extensions to Opera's Extensions catalog.Defending myself from your attacks does not make me a hypocrite. Nor does it make you literate, *simple not simply
and one still must go to the Chrome store regardless of the reasoning, which was the point you haven't and can't dispute. It's why of course you NEED to resort to petty taunts and yet I'm the hijacker. smh
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alreadybanned last edited by
You're a Cyberfox user. Enjoy your browser. Have a nice day!
yep, a former and loooong time Opera user as well.
If alienating a good many of the current user base in hopes of procuring a new one is the approach, good luck with that but there really should be no surprise with any backlash either
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samkook last edited by
... one still must go to the Chrome store regardless of the reasoning, which was the point you haven't and can't dispute.
You don't need to go to the chrome store, but you can if you want to.
Extensions are made by the community, not the browser developers(generally at least) so it's normal that opera's v15+ extension store is small since it hasn't been released that long ago compared to all the other browsers, it will need time to grow larger.
If you see an extension that's not in opera's store but is in another browser, ask the extension developer if they would be willing to port it natively to opera and they might say yes, especially if it's a chrome one since they use the same engine which makes things much simpler.
If they don't want to, you can either try and find/pay someone else to do it, give it a try for yourself or revisit your decision on using a chrome extension with opera.
There's no magical solution, the opera devs are busy(I hope to god) working on bringing more features and fixing the many problems and limitation of the current browser so they don't have time to do the job of a few awesome people making extensions to add feature to their favorite browser.
It takes time to create something, it doesn't appear from thin air.
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czerwix last edited by
been using opera since it's birth... i really hate updates on any program, due to many developers breaking a perfectly fine system. opera was my favorite browser never gave on it, even made my friends use it. since version 13+ i had to stop updating and stick to 12, recently i could take the update me !!! message and gave in... updated, and straight up what i see is this tablet looking interface. (wtf is "stash" and why can't i press ctl+ d to fav a site ...), i always loved opera because of its own distinct look but now look what happen all chrome firefox and opera look 99% alike... meh.. new opera isn't stable, and the worst of all opens 16+ processes, what i assume is happening is that it's opening a process for each extension. i loved the idea of a different tab for downloads.... now i have to open downloads and if i want to locate the file i have to navigate to jet another page then only i can get the info i could get so easily before... been using the new version for other a month and it's awful nothing to like but bit faster speed... + why would you try and advertise that you can use chrom extenctions... thats like saying hey we need to copy chrome maybe then people will join our browser... and jet again we see that you are not only losing users but also have plp move to 12... i might have to move my self i can't keep up with the idea of having multiple processes(abut 10) for 1 application. +++++++++++++==WHy DEVS of whyyy do you keep saying everything is fine when the community is telling you really really fucked the putch on this one, undo these changes and regain your fans ==++++++++= if anybody has a good browser that doesn't look like minecraft i will be happy to hear about it
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A Former User last edited by
Defending myself from your attacks does not make me a hypocrite. Nor does it make you literate, *simple not simply
and one still must go to the Chrome store regardless of the reasoning, which was the point you haven't and can't dispute. It's why of course you NEED to resort to petty taunts and yet I'm the hijacker. smh
Ohhh nooo 01 typo when I know exactly the difference between simply and simple, I guess I lost my point completely now.You continue being the hypocrite accusing me of misjudging you. You're the hijacker and the one resorting to personal attacks.
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lem729 last edited by admin
czerwix,
Here's a thread discussing the multiple processes. They're actually a plus, helping the user.
https://forums.opera.com/topic/2454/multiple-processes-for-opera-exe/12
"As @Christoph142 noted: I'm wondering why so many people think that this is something bad and start complaining about it cause it's
not! * * * it actually speeds up the application since processes can be run independently in parallel on different cores of your CPU."
As for what the community is telling Opera, czerwix, it doesn't at all speak with your malcontent. Many in the community are saying, thank you Opera for a faster browser -- for one that gets us to more sites than Opera 12.17 ever could. Thanks also for a browser that isn't loaded with a lot of niche crap we never wanted (that slows everything down), but rather gives everyone the possibility of adding the extensions that they, in fact, do want. Let everyone be responsible for what they put on their own browser. A group of power users SHOULD NOT dictate what everyone is stuck with. For us, Opera Presto was heading to a dead end of over-convoluted code, with a hodge-podge of superimposed features, each one stacked on top of the last, the whole structure groaning and creaking. Thanks Opera for the changeover from the antiquated Presto engine to a fast and vital Blink engine, and with it, the starting anew.
