Opera 12 Vs. Opera Next Functionality

Deleted User

Deleted User

I notice when I type responses on this forum, the font is really small as I am writing my comment. Is there any way to change the font and/or font size as in Opera 12?

I notice when I reply in a different PHPBB forum, the font is much larger in the compose box. Any comments?

lem729

lem729

Are you typing from desktop, a laptop, a tablet?. When I type from my Ipad, with Coast, the font-print is fine, but with Puffin it'svery small. So it may vary browser to browser. If you are using desktop Opera, just enlarge the view (press 0) if you have advanced shortcuts set up, or I think it's control shift plus.

Deleted User

Deleted User

I am typing from a 12.5" laptop (1366 x 768 resolution), so yes, I am using Desktop Opera.

Deleted User

Deleted User

@sidneyleto,
He wants DuckDuckGo as a default. He can add DuckDuckGo to Opera if he chooses by going to the DuckDuckGo website, and right clicking on the seach bar there, but it will not become one of the Opera default search engines. There are only five permissible default Search engines in opera. even if it is not one of the five Opera default search engines, he can use DuckDuckGo from the main Opera address bar by typing "d" before his search query. It's not a big deal to just type one letter, i.e.,d before the query. If he's willing to do that on every search (type that one letter) then he doesn't need the Disconnect Search extension.
Bt if he doesn't want to do that, he can go the Disconnect Search route, which makes use of any of the search engines safer (google, bing, etc.). All you have to do is to select the search you want to use in Disconnect Search, and it becomes the de facto default till you change the selection. So you would not have to type the d.
In any event, it is extremely easy for Herudae to use DuckDuckGo in Opera, whether through, adding the duckDuckGo search to Opera, and typing one letter, d, before every search, or getting The Disconnect Search extension.

I add Baixaki search and in search bar appears the icon of baixaki, and I could choose Baixaki to be default

lem729

lem729

That doesn't make sense to me. There must be some explanation for why we are getting different result.

Now I'm using Windows 7. Maybe there's a difference based for making default search engines in Opera, linked to one's Operating System. @Sidneyneto, what Operating system are you using?

When I right click on the Windows address bar, I have 5 possible default search engines -- Google, Bing, Yahoo, Amazon, and Wikipedia. They are under a heading in my Settings "Default Search Engines." Any one of those five -- if I highlight them -- I receive an option to make default. My other search engines that I have added to Opera like Duck Duck Go, Dogpile, etc. are listed as "Other Search engines." If I highlight them, I CANNOT make them a default. I never receive that option. But there are letter(s) next to them. That means, if I want to search with DuckDuckGo, I type the letter "d" (which is next to DuckDuckGo, and my search query in the Opera address bar. With Dogpile, it's d-o and the search query. It's not hard to type the letter and the search. It's really simple. But with a default search engine, when you make it a default, you don't have to do that.

Now all I was saying to the original poster was that with Disconnect Search, you can make DuckDuckGo essentially a default, since it is one of the five search engines, they use.

rainspa

rainspa

I'm using Win 8.1 and I only have 5 possible default search engines too. Perhaps sidneyneto could describe how he makes any other search engine other than those 5 a default search as I can't work out how.

rainspa

rainspa

I'm using Win 8.1 and I only have 5 possible default search engines too. Perhaps sidneyneto could describe how he makes any other search engine other than those 5 a default search as I can't work out how to.

alreadybanned

alreadybanned

@sidneyleto,
He wants DuckDuckGo as a default. He can add DuckDuckGo to Opera if he chooses by going to the DuckDuckGo website, and right clicking on the seach bar there, but it will not become one of the Opera default search engines. There are only five permissible default Search engines in opera. even if it is not one of the five Opera default search engines, he can use DuckDuckGo from the main Opera address bar by typing "d" before his search query. It's not a big deal to just type one letter, i.e.,d before the query. If he's willing to do that on every search (type that one letter) then he doesn't need the Disconnect Search extension.
Bt if he doesn't want to do that, he can go the Disconnect Search route, which makes use of any of the search engines safer (google, bing, etc.). All you have to do is to select the search you want to use in Disconnect Search, and it becomes the de facto default till you change the selection. So you would not have to type the d.
In any event, it is extremely easy for Herudae to use DuckDuckGo in Opera, whether through, adding the duckDuckGo search to Opera, and typing one letter, d, before every search, or getting The Disconnect Search extension.

I add Baixaki search and in search bar appears the icon of baixaki, and I could choose Baixaki to be default

What search bar? There is only the omnibar. In settings I can't choose any but the original 5 as a default. Win 7

Deleted User

Deleted User

I will check and tell you later! I was using Opera 18 or 19 I think, currently I am on Windows 8.1 @rainspa @lem729

Deleted User

Deleted User

Update: maybe it was possible to do that in previous version, now I can not do it.

lem729

lem729

Okay, so the answer is you can use DuckDuckGo as a default search engine, and search from the Opera address bar, but you need to download the Opera extension, Disconnect Search, and set it up as a default in that extension. it's very easy to do.

In the alternative, it's very easy to do all your searches with DuckDuckGo as your search engine by adding it to Opera, and then beginning each search in the address bar with one letter a "d"

There is also, by the way, (because there are many ways to skin a cat) ;)))) a DuckDuckGo extension. I can't remember if it's in the Opera store or Chrome, and that will set up a separate DuckDuckGo search bar. I believe you may have to click though on an icon to open up the bar for use. If you're interested in that route, you need to explore the Opera and Chrome extension store sites.

lem729

lem729

@herudae,

Regarding the last approach, you might want to take a look at this Duck Duck Go extension.

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/duckduckgo-for-opera-2/?display=en

herudae

herudae

Hello, I have the DuckDuckGo extension it just add a button aside the omnibox and add the DDG to search engines, but when I type d (shortcut for DDG) it shows me the duck icon and the string to search for but when hitting Enter it does NOTHING, so shortcut does not work for DDG in the omnibox, it does not work even if I select manually with a click DDG, I've also installed Diconnect Addon but it does just the same, it just add a button to my browser but it has no effect in omnibox default search engines.

So I think Opera is dead until I can add my own bloody search engine, my security is my responsibility I don't need a company with babysitter complex to decide what search engines I can use, Opera looks nice but functionality is what I need.

Deleted User

Deleted User

LOL... back in the "day" when AltaVista was the major search engine, you just bookmarked it and when you wanted to search, voila. Bookmark DuckDuckGo by placing it on your QAB or your Speed Dial. Is it really sooo very inconvenient or hard to do? Opera is not dead by a country mile but there will always be certain ones who demand it perform exactly as they wish OR they storm off to find something else. (sigh)

lem729

lem729

@herudae

Very puzzling, unless you need to reinstall the Opera. But listen, BELIEVE ME, it works. ;)))) For the moment, deactivate or Delete the DuckDuckGo extension (that gives you their search bar). Now on Disconnect Search, you can DEFINITELY search from the main address bar. I do it all the time. I use Disconnect Search and generally i use DuckDuckGo with Disconnect Search. It works (at least in Windows 7, which I have)

Go to settings/options (there's something like that in it) (I think you right click the Disconnect Searc icon to get the menu for this) and in Disconnect Search, put the dot in search from main address bar, if it's not there. . And select that you want to use DuckDucKGo with it. (and in the disconnnect Search option, you can choose your prefered search engine. Now afterwards, when you do a search from the main address bar watch the icon all the way to the left of the address bar. It should indicate a closed panel and a disconnect search. Or something like that. I'm typing this from an Ipad, so please me if I'm off a drop, but i am going from memory,

Opera has no babby sitter mentality. As long as you have added DucKDuckGo to your search engines (and Opera lets you add almost anything to your main search engines, including DuckDuckGo,), you should be able to search from the main address bar by just typing the letter d and the search.

With Disconnect Search, however, if you put the settings right in it, no need to type the d at all. Just do your search from the main address bar. DuckDuckGo will have become your default. Be of good cheer. It's wonderful. Or at least should be for you

herudae

herudae

@leushino I think everyone should have the right to choose what search engine to use in its browser, it's not that I have Opera to work that way, it's just they way it should work, holy crap, even GOOGLE Chrome allow us to delete Google from the search engines list, besides I don't want to have plugins to be able to use the search engine I want to use nor I want to make one, two or fifty additional clicks because the developers of a browser decided to take away some liberty from us.

@lem729 I understood what was happening to Disconnect, when you type in your search bar it shows Google logo, but after hitting Enter Disconnect overrides the search and uses your default, but the results page is not the normal results page from DDG, it has been modified. Talking about shortcut, DucDuckGo won't work from the omnibox, the "d" shortcut is useless, selecting by clicking the duck face in the omnibox doesn't work either and trying to select a text and right-clicking to Search With DuckDuckGo for Opera will just frustrate anyone. By the way someone tell in this post Opera Team blocked default search engines in the name of security, to avoid default search engine to be hijacked, if it's the case we're seeing a babysitter who take away a dangerous object so you won't harm yourself because of your ignorance.

Thanks to everyone, I really appreciate the feedback, I'm leaving this post and right after that I will uninstall both versions of Opera, I don't need them anymore and they are not enough good for me to use them, and @leushino, I'm not "storming off to find something else", at this historical moment we have too many options to stick with a lesser one, it's sad because I liked so much the Opera concept I have made an effort to use it, I already have installed and tried to use Opera as my main Browser at least 8 times, but I always ended disappointed.

Good bye and good luck to every one.

lem729

lem729

@herudae,

Thanks for your note. And good luck. Hmmmm. you tried Opera 8 times already. Something seems to draw you back. I'd call it intuition -- that voice within you that says, this is what i should be using. Sometimes, you don't get everything perfect. Listen to the inner voice. And for sure, 9 is a lucky number. :))) Have a great day!

Deleted User

Deleted User

@herudae: Good luck to you. I guess we all have to make decisions regarding what we will and what we will not accept (i.e. tolerate). For me the search engine is not a big deal and certainly having it as a bookmark is no issue. But I recognize I'm pretty easy about things and for others this IS a deal breaker. Anyway... all the best. Good-bye.

trinarystar

trinarystar

I have just tested the latest Opera 20 and have compared it with Opera 12.

Missing Important Features:

Bookmarks -- I have over 5000 bookmarks in Opera 12. They are just gone. An extension called "Bookmarks Manager" can import bookmarks from Opera 12, but this extension is considerably more inconvenient than the Opera 12 bookmark system. Without my bookmarks I cannot access some of the important websites I need to visit, especially my own 300+ websites. What a pity that I cannot visit MY OWN websites!
meta redirect control -- "Meta tag redirect" is used to redirect visitors from old websites to new websites. This happens when you move a website to a new domain. With Opera 12, you can always visit such old websites. This feature has proven to be very useful when you are in the process of moving a website to a new domain. I own quite a lot of old websites. So, if I stop using Opera 12, I can never go back to my old websites.
MHTML web page saving -- You can save a web page in ONE MHTML file with Opera 12. I have saved thousands of web pages in the MHTML file format with Opera 12. With Opera 20, you cannot save a web page this way, and you cannot view your archive of web pages saved in the MHTML format anymore. MHTML has been so useful, and I cannot give it up.
Default font set -- The default font set is MS P Gothic (for Japanese-language websites anyway) with Opera 12, but it is Times New Roman with Opera 20. No Japanese use Times New Roman in Japanese, of course. As a result, Japanese-language websites look very strange, not the way they should look. This can be adjusted if you do a few things in the settings, but it is hard to find where to look.

Good things about Opera 20:

Opera 20 is certainly faster than Opera 12. But that is just about it: there is nothing else to praise.

Bad things about Opera 12:

With Opera 12, you cannot tweet on the PC version of Twitter, and you cannot follow or unfollow other accounts either. You need to access the mobile version of Twitter to tweet and follow / unfollow other accounts.

My own decision:

I will stick to Opera 12 at least for now. When I need speed, I will use Firefox. I cannot part with Opera 12 because of the first three problems I mentioned earlier. When I need to access Twitter, I will use Firefox or just access mobile.twitter.com with Opera 12.

By the way, I prefer to use Opera 12 especially when I write articles for blogs, because Firefox often deletes all my writings and I have to write the same things all over again.

There are so many things that make me continue to use Opera 12, but there is none that compels me to use Opera 20 or Firefox, or for that matter, Chrome.

lem729

lem729

Did you try in Opera 20 Menu/More Tools, Bookmark Importer, and Check Import to the Bookmarks Bar. You could try managing your bookmarks from there. You can make folders within folders with an extension. Perhaps, Chrookmarks for Chrome, which I have and which permits the making of folders within folders. never use that primitive Opera Bookmarks extension, and I believe you can import from the place on the Menu I cited to you.

Good luck.