Good alternatives to Opera 12.16?
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colderwinters last edited by
Ok, I'm much closer now to consider Opera 20 as one of my more used browsers and maybe as default possibly, got the bookmarks figured out and I dont even need Tidy Bookmarks, The bookmarks on Opera now look just like the bookmarks on any of my other browsers, whether it's Ice Dragon, Dragon, Firefox, Srware Iron, the only thing is I access them from the bookmarks bar, No Bigge, I like the bookmarks bar for my most accessed websites, ScreenShots here------>
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lem729 last edited by
Are you just using the Personal Bookmarks bar, colderwinters? I tried the extension Chrookmarks (in the Chrome store) and I think it might be a little better than Tidy Bookmarks. You can organize alphabetically and/or chronologically.
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colderwinters last edited by
Are you just using the Personal Bookmarks bar, colderwinters? I tried the extension Chrookmarks (in the Chrome store) and I think it might be a little better than Tidy Bookmarks. You can organize alphabetically and/or chronologically.
What I did Lem was export the bookmarks as HTML from Dragon, A chrome derivitive browser, bookmarks were already sorted by the extension SuperSorter I use on Chrome style browsers, I think exporting bookmarks from a Chrome style browser is the way to go, I also copied the Bookmarks file from Dragon to replace Operas Bookmarks folder in AppData/Roaming, Not sure which of those did the trick, it was late last night when I did it, you can see from the screenshots I access bookmarks from the Bookmarks bar, same as I do in Dragon, they are all in order and cascade, the only extension i have for bookmarks installed is the bookmarks manager for importing bookmarks, works like a charm and I dont need any other bookmarks extensions Progress has been made
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Deleted User last edited by
Might as well sit down, have a beer together and (or coffee if that's your thing) and enjoy the moment of victory.
I have to admit, with the small font I was beginning to despair. -
Deleted User last edited by
I just installed Opera 20 (20.0.1387.91) on Windows 7 a couple of days ago. Although I still prefer version 12.16, version 20 finally appears good enough to use on a daily basis. Was it Opera that said: "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me." Naw, I got confused, that was Stewart Smalley.
I imported my bookmarks, but there were too many bookmark folders to fit on the bookmark bar without scrolling. I ended up creating a bookmark folder named "Bookmarks", then dragged and dropped all the other bookmark folders onto it. Now bookmark behavior is pretty similar to how it was in version 12.
I miss the View Bar, the Wand, and the Start Bar, but at least Opera appears to be usable now. I was beginning to have problems with version 12, so I wanted to use something else for my default browser. I haven't discovered any browsers that have the plethora of features available in Opera version 12.
Oftentimes in life I find so-called "Progress" is regressive. It's a shame to have to reminisce about "The Good Ole Days" as often as I do...
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linuxmint7 last edited by
I haven't discovered any browsers that have the plethora of features available in Opera version 12.
And never will. An end of an era, sadly...
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lem729 last edited by
@gomjabbar,
Think about making creative use of the Speed Dial, with each part of it able to include folders. You can have many speed dials within the overal speed dial. Why's it's hallucinogenic. Lucy in the sky . . . Lol. You can store much more of your most used links than in the speed dial in Opera 12. If you end up liking it -- and I love it -- at least that's clearly a significant improvement -- yes in my humble opinion, ;))) over what was before.
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torrente last edited by
And never will. An end of an era, sadly...
Look at Otter browser changelog https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/CHANGELOG and To-do list here https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/TODO
Also, don't forget if they ever open source Presto ...
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Deleted User last edited by
They will never open the source of Opera Presto. If they do that, they will create their own competition.
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torrente last edited by
They will never open the source of Opera Presto. If they do that, they will create their own competition.
LOL, yes, but they say power users are in minority, so that won't hurt them, right?
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Deleted User last edited by
Maybe not, maybe yes. I do not imagine someone using Presto to build a browser because it has a lot of bugs.
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jito463 last edited by
Maybe not, maybe yes. I do not imagine someone using Presto to build a browser because it has a lot of bugs.
All of them do. Every software has bugs. The only reason it seemed more prominent with Opera, is because most website designers coded around the bugs in the more popular browsers (Chrome, IE, Firefox), while Opera had to code around those same "fixes" implemented on the sites.
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Deleted User last edited by
Do not forget that the code of Presto is more complex than others. Google changed Webkit to Blink to make the code more simple
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deld1ablo last edited by
I think you should try Firefox
Does it still have vsync misses and a slow UI? The "performance" is good, but what I remember was that it was unresponsive back in the day.
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lem729 last edited by
I think you should try Firefox>
Opera Blink's initial page loads (Opera 17 was the one tested) were faster than Firefox, Chrome, or IE. Firefox's page load time from cache (5.179 esconds) and non-cached (11.091 seconds) were by far the worst of the four browsers. Opera 17's was the best from a non-cached situation(1.685 seconds), and near tied with Chrome for best from cache(3.526 seconds) .
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jlk103144 last edited by
I have to confess that I have been with Opera since version 2 I believe. It was not free, and I payed for each major upgrade, until it went the route of all others and was given to the public. And too, I have always referred it to others.
Now, I am aware of the need to change to a different browser engine. But regardless the need, I am still unable to embrace the new Opera. Sorry about that. I am not reactionary either. It just doesn't serve my likes, as it once did. And you can make all of the excuses you wish [b]Lem[/b], but I have been with this browser longer than 99.9% of current users, and I am sure I am not alone here in my thinking. I am not saying that it stinks, like others. But the new browser is woefully subpar, and this long standing lover of Opera is not happy.
There are just so many things I am not allowed to customize anymore. What you have here is a standard cookie cutter that is adequate, but not outstanding. Lem, you guys have forgotten Robert Browning's point about "one's reach exceeding one's grasp". And that is a real shame.
I would suggest that you look after the original fans, and come up with something that represents Opera's original mission, because when you lose your REAL base, you are on the road to extinction.
This is just my opinion, but It is time for me to begin looking for another backup browser other than Firefox. I'm not happy with being treated like a mushroom. Sorry.
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triocton last edited by
I love Opera 12.16 (last 12.17) and used it loooong time. Many times I tried other browsers and since 1 month working on new Opera (ver. 25). Just a few extenstions (e.g. Classic Tabs, TabHamster) , change some experimental functions ( opera://flags/ in address) , changes in opera settings - and now new version is not so bad. Many shortcuts and gestures are the same (not all unfortunetly). I recommend to try it.
