Good alternatives to Opera 12.16?
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blackbird71 last edited by... I took the Firefox Nightly for a test drive and it is horrid. With the new layout you are unable to move certain buttons around on the address bar. The menu(as you can see in the link I provided earlier) is clearly designed for finger painting.
Palemoon doesn't have silent updates and is against the new UI so it is based off of v24-ESR branch. I guess I'll be moving over to that if the one I'm using(v28) starts to perform poorlyAnother good reason to use browser designs that allow one to block auto-updating! Eventually, that FF nightly build will progress into a released version, and auto-updated users will be stuck with that sort of nonsense whether they want it or not. At least my current FF (28) allows me to easily block updates, so I can and do control what gets pushed my way and when. Unfortunately, with New Opera, users have to resort to hacks to block auto-updating... and I foresee major user discontent arising somewhere down the way, either because users seriously don't like the pushed changes or because the update crashes some systems. I've yet to meet a piece of software that hasn't crashed at some time because of a messed up update... and it's why I block all auto-updating on my systems, opting for notification and manual updating instead. I routinely wait a week or two, and first test the waters in which auto-updated users are swimming... it's saved me from numerous erratic update issues.
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nightmaresoul last edited by
Well I am a Opera fanboy, but I agree with you Funksoulbro. So Far the only browser I have found that works comparably to Opera 12.16 is Opera 12.16. If you find any others that are as good and are seeing a consistent stream of work being put to them, please come back and inform me.
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Deleted User last edited by
Enjoy your increasing incompatibility and eventually insecurity. It's all coming to an end and the Titanic, in spite of loyalty, is going to sink.
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colderwinters last edited by
FunkSoulBro, I gave you good advice on what browser to use, the older Opera used to be my main default browser, if what I suggested works for me, it should work for you, Are you saying you cant surf the net unless it's with that old obsolete version of opera ? If that old obsolete irrelevent opera is the only thing people can use to surf the net, then god help us all.
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jito463 last edited by
While it's not as good as Opera 12.x, I did find some features I liked in Sleipnir. However, I didn't care much for the tab bar system in v5, so I'd suggest using v4 instead. Just my personal observation. Then again, I didn't utilize it much for day-to-day browsing, more for some specific tasks. It's also based on Chromium, so it shares many features with ChrOpera, but with a bit more functionality. In the end, though, I just couldn't bring myself to use it as a replacement, for much the same reason I can't bring myself to use the post-Presto Opera. Still, you may find it more accommodating than I did.
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funksoulbro last edited by
"It's all coming to an end and the Titanic, in spite of loyalty, is going to sink."
I wasn't talking about the new version of the browser, which is clearly due to be discontinued soon. I was talking about alternatives to the old browser - you know, the good one.
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lem729 last edited by
What happens happens! Opera Next is fun to use. Opera 12 was also. They have different pluses and minuses. I make no pretense of being able to predict anything. I only know what I like. And I do still enjoy Opera. I have the New Opera (Opera 20) and the Old (Opera 12) on my desktop. I made the switch because I now enjoy using the new one more. But I respect Opera 12 enormously -- and many of the versions that came before it. Think that Opera was and is still (old Browser and new) a delight.
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DarthMordred last edited by
Opera 20 sucks and this is a fact!
Yes, Opera 20 is one of the worst browsers I've used.
Even with Opera 12, and very sad for having abandoned him in future. -
colderwinters last edited by
Ok, I'm much closer now to consider Opera 20 as one of my more used browsers and maybe as default possibly, got the bookmarks figured out and I dont even need Tidy Bookmarks, The bookmarks on Opera now look just like the bookmarks on any of my other browsers, whether it's Ice Dragon, Dragon, Firefox, Srware Iron, the only thing is I access them from the bookmarks bar, No Bigge, I like the bookmarks bar for my most accessed websites, ScreenShots here------>
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lem729 last edited by
Are you just using the Personal Bookmarks bar, colderwinters? I tried the extension Chrookmarks (in the Chrome store) and I think it might be a little better than Tidy Bookmarks. You can organize alphabetically and/or chronologically.
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colderwinters last edited by
Are you just using the Personal Bookmarks bar, colderwinters? I tried the extension Chrookmarks (in the Chrome store) and I think it might be a little better than Tidy Bookmarks. You can organize alphabetically and/or chronologically.
What I did Lem was export the bookmarks as HTML from Dragon, A chrome derivitive browser, bookmarks were already sorted by the extension SuperSorter I use on Chrome style browsers, I think exporting bookmarks from a Chrome style browser is the way to go, I also copied the Bookmarks file from Dragon to replace Operas Bookmarks folder in AppData/Roaming, Not sure which of those did the trick, it was late last night when I did it, you can see from the screenshots I access bookmarks from the Bookmarks bar, same as I do in Dragon, they are all in order and cascade, the only extension i have for bookmarks installed is the bookmarks manager for importing bookmarks, works like a charm and I dont need any other bookmarks extensions Progress has been made
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Deleted User last edited by
Might as well sit down, have a beer together and (or coffee if that's your thing) and enjoy the moment of victory.
I have to admit, with the small font I was beginning to despair. -
Deleted User last edited by
I just installed Opera 20 (20.0.1387.91) on Windows 7 a couple of days ago. Although I still prefer version 12.16, version 20 finally appears good enough to use on a daily basis. Was it Opera that said: "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me." Naw, I got confused, that was Stewart Smalley.
I imported my bookmarks, but there were too many bookmark folders to fit on the bookmark bar without scrolling. I ended up creating a bookmark folder named "Bookmarks", then dragged and dropped all the other bookmark folders onto it. Now bookmark behavior is pretty similar to how it was in version 12.
I miss the View Bar, the Wand, and the Start Bar, but at least Opera appears to be usable now. I was beginning to have problems with version 12, so I wanted to use something else for my default browser. I haven't discovered any browsers that have the plethora of features available in Opera version 12.
Oftentimes in life I find so-called "Progress" is regressive. It's a shame to have to reminisce about "The Good Ole Days" as often as I do...
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linuxmint7 last edited by
I haven't discovered any browsers that have the plethora of features available in Opera version 12.
And never will. An end of an era, sadly...
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lem729 last edited by
@gomjabbar,
Think about making creative use of the Speed Dial, with each part of it able to include folders. You can have many speed dials within the overal speed dial. Why's it's hallucinogenic. Lucy in the sky . . . Lol. You can store much more of your most used links than in the speed dial in Opera 12. If you end up liking it -- and I love it -- at least that's clearly a significant improvement -- yes in my humble opinion, ;))) over what was before.
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torrente last edited by
And never will. An end of an era, sadly...
Look at Otter browser changelog https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/CHANGELOG and To-do list here https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/TODO
Also, don't forget if they ever open source Presto ...
