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    • lem729
      lem729 last edited by

      @gomjabbar,

      Think about making creative use of the Speed Dial, with each part of it able to include folders. You can have many speed dials within the overal speed dial. Why's it's hallucinogenic. Lucy in the sky . . . Lol. You can store much more of your most used links than in the speed dial in Opera 12. If you end up liking it -- and I love it -- at least that's clearly a significant improvement -- yes in my humble opinion, ;))) over what was before.

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      • torrente
        torrente last edited by

        And never will. An end of an era, sadly...

        Look at Otter browser changelog https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/CHANGELOG and To-do list here https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/TODO

        Also, don't forget if they ever open source Presto ...

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          They will never open the source of Opera Presto. If they do that, they will create their own competition.

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          • torrente
            torrente last edited by

            They will never open the source of Opera Presto. If they do that, they will create their own competition.

            LOL, yes, but they say power users are in minority, so that won't hurt them, right?

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              Maybe not, maybe yes. I do not imagine someone using Presto to build a browser because it has a lot of bugs.

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              • jito463
                jito463 last edited by

                Maybe not, maybe yes. I do not imagine someone using Presto to build a browser because it has a lot of bugs.

                All of them do. Every software has bugs. The only reason it seemed more prominent with Opera, is because most website designers coded around the bugs in the more popular browsers (Chrome, IE, Firefox), while Opera had to code around those same "fixes" implemented on the sites.

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  Do not forget that the code of Presto is more complex than others. Google changed Webkit to Blink to make the code more simple

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                  • deld1ablo
                    deld1ablo last edited by

                    I think you should try Firefox

                    Does it still have vsync misses and a slow UI? The "performance" is good, but what I remember was that it was unresponsive back in the day.

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                    • lem729
                      lem729 last edited by

                      I think you should try Firefox>

                      Opera Blink's initial page loads (Opera 17 was the one tested) were faster than Firefox, Chrome, or IE. Firefox's page load time from cache (5.179 esconds) and non-cached (11.091 seconds) were by far the worst of the four browsers. Opera 17's was the best from a non-cached situation(1.685 seconds), and near tied with Chrome for best from cache(3.526 seconds) .

                      http://www.slideshare.net/MID_AS/browser-performance-tests

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                      • jlk103144
                        jlk103144 last edited by

                        I have to confess that I have been with Opera since version 2 I believe. It was not free, and I payed for each major upgrade, until it went the route of all others and was given to the public. And too, I have always referred it to others.

                        Now, I am aware of the need to change to a different browser engine. But regardless the need, I am still unable to embrace the new Opera. Sorry about that. I am not reactionary either. It just doesn't serve my likes, as it once did. And you can make all of the excuses you wish [b]Lem[/b], but I have been with this browser longer than 99.9% of current users, and I am sure I am not alone here in my thinking. I am not saying that it stinks, like others. But the new browser is woefully subpar, and this long standing lover of Opera is not happy.

                        There are just so many things I am not allowed to customize anymore. What you have here is a standard cookie cutter that is adequate, but not outstanding. Lem, you guys have forgotten Robert Browning's point about "one's reach exceeding one's grasp". And that is a real shame.

                        I would suggest that you look after the original fans, and come up with something that represents Opera's original mission, because when you lose your REAL base, you are on the road to extinction.

                        This is just my opinion, but It is time for me to begin looking for another backup browser other than Firefox. I'm not happy with being treated like a mushroom. Sorry.

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                        • triocton
                          triocton last edited by

                          I love Opera 12.16 (last 12.17) and used it loooong time. Many times I tried other browsers and since 1 month working on new Opera (ver. 25). Just a few extenstions (e.g. Classic Tabs, TabHamster) , change some experimental functions ( opera://flags/ in address) , changes in opera settings - and now new version is not so bad. Many shortcuts and gestures are the same (not all unfortunetly). I recommend to try it.

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