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    • mikecerm
      mikecerm last edited by

      I'm glad to hear that the "bug" has been fixed, but it is unfortunate that Opera has elected to fix it by leaving so much data unencrypted, rather than enabling full sync encryption as Google and Firefox have done. With Opera's sync servers having been recently compromised, it goes without saying that Opera's sync model is horribly insecure, and should be avoided completely. Had Google or Firefox's servers been compromised, no user data would have been put at risk.

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      • black-955-tiger
        black-955-tiger last edited by

        Stupid question alert?????
        What is the passphrase and where does one get it from? I tried to set up this sync thing a couple of days ago and was never asked to create a passphrase. Now in the sync button, top right of the screen I'm being told that I need to enter my passphrase to complete the sync process. Can anyone help please?

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        • leocg
          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          What is the passphrase and where does one get it from?

          The passphrase is set up by the user itself.

          I tried to set up this sync thing a couple of days ago and was never asked to create a passphrase

          Then you shouldn't need to use one.

          Now in the sync button, top right of the screen I'm being told that I need to enter my passphrase to complete the sync process.

          So you login into Sync and it asks you for a passphrase?

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          • Deleted User
            Deleted User last edited by

            As of today (version 40) the "Advanced Synchronisation Settings" dialog gives you two choices: "Encrypt synchronised password with your Opera credentials" or "Encrypt all synced data with your own sync passphrase".

            Does option two (ALL SYNCED DATA) really mean that I'm the only one who can access my data?

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Does option two (ALL SYNCED DATA) really mean that I'm the only one who can access my data?

              It should say 'encrypt synchronised passwords with your own passphrase'.

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              • mikecerm
                mikecerm last edited by

                Does option two (ALL SYNCED DATA) really mean that I'm the only one who can access my data?

                I just tested it out, and that does appear to be true. If you try to view your synced data at sync.opera.com it now shows that the data is encrypted, where previously the data was visible even if you had chosen to encrypt all data with a passphrase.

                Still not sure I'd trust it. I mean, previously Opera claimed to encrypt the data though they weren't actually doing it. If they're that careless with user data (remember, they were also hacked recently), who knows whether they're actually encrypting it now or just saying that they are.

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  As a user I would really appreciate to know wether it's encrypted all the way or Opera just dropped a few padlock icons to gain trust.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    As a user I would really appreciate to know wether it's encrypted all the way or Opera just dropped a few padlock icons to gain trust.

                    Synced passwords are encrypted.

                    Other data only during transition between client and server.

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                    • Deleted User
                      Deleted User last edited by

                      How do you know? If you're correct, why does the dialog say "Encrypt all synced data..", and the "auth.opera.com" website tell users that bookmarks etc is encrypted?

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        ..the "sync.opera.com" website that is.

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                        • mikecerm
                          mikecerm last edited by

                          Synced passwords are encrypted.
                          Other data only during transition between client and server.

                          That's how it used to work, not how it currently works.

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                          • mikecerm
                            mikecerm last edited by

                            How do you know? If you're correct, why does the dialog say "Encrypt all synced data..", and the "auth.opera.com" website tell users that bookmarks etc is encrypted?

                            Don't listen to him, he's relying on outdated info. You can get details about what is actually being encrypted at opera://sync-internals/

                            But ultimately, since Opera is closed source, you have to trust that they're actually doing what they say, and that hasn't always been been true in the past.

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              How do you know?

                              If you read the whole topic you will see some links where you may find those information.

                              If you're correct, why does the dialog say "Encrypt all synced data.."

                              This was answered already in this topic. It's a bug on the dialog.

                              and the "auth.opera.com" website tell users that bookmarks etc is encrypted?

                              I don't see any mention about it.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Don't listen to him, he's relying on outdated info

                                All that I said is still valid.

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                                • Deleted User
                                  Deleted User last edited by

                                  @leocg Are you seriously saying that you can't see any padlocks or text that says "encrypted" on "sync.opera.com" when browsing your synced bookmarks for example?

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    @leocg Are you seriously saying that you can't see any padlocks or text that says "encrypted" on "sync.opera.com" when browsing your synced bookmarks for example?

                                    At sync.opera.com/web I can only see a padlock in 'passwords'.

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                                    • mikecerm
                                      mikecerm last edited by

                                      @leocg Are you seriously saying that you can't see any padlocks or text that says "encrypted" on "sync.opera.com" when browsing your synced bookmarks for example?

                                      At sync.opera.com/web I can only see a padlock in 'passwords'.

                                      Are you using a passphrase? If you aren't, then it would make sense that nothing but passwords are being encrypted -- basically how it's always been. If you are using a passphrase, maybe it's just not encrypting anything else because you set up Opera Sync before Opera changed how Sync works. If that's the case then you might want to reset Sync and start over. Then again, if you were using Sync before now -- with or without a password -- you clearly don't care about security/privacy anyway.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        Are you using a passphrase?

                                        No, I'm not.

                                        Then again, if you were using Sync before now -- with or without a password -- you clearly don't care about security/privacy anyway.

                                        Like 9 out of 10 people. 🙂

                                        Serious, having ny passwords encrypted is enough for me. I really don't care that much if someone find out that I visit this or that page.

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