Opera updates in Vista/XP?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Except that they aren't
Yes, they are. Unless you can show that they left a severe security issue unfixed for a long time and this put users in risk.
(unless every three years is good enough, and for me and most others it isn't).
Even 30 if no severe security issue has been found during that time.
Saying that a software will get security updates means that it will receive those updates when needed not that it will receive constant updates.
Technically you're right about the "promise", but the fact is that they aren't releasing security updates for Vista, and I kind of doubt that they will in the next few months, seeing the way they're taking this.
You just contradicted yourself. If you agree that they never promised about the frequency of releases then you can't say that they broke the promise.
Even though Vista is still supported till April.
Well, go blame Google for ending support for it in Chromium.
Anyway, it's not because MS still supports an OS that all software makers need to support it.
After how many months of no updates (in today's world where we don't need news every month of vulnerabilities to know they exist) will your trust in them wane?
It may be 1 or 10 or 100. It will depends on if there are severe security issues not patched putting users in real risk.
Risky?
Yes. Every line of code in Chromium that they had to change to allow it to work in XP/Vista would increase the risk of breaking something.
Also, there is the chance of a change in Chromium code at any moment so making it usable in XP/Vista become very difficult.
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lando242 last edited by
Except that they aren't (unless every three years is good enough, and for me and most others it isn't).
For someone running an insecure OS you seem to be really agitated that your web browser isn't being updated every month. Mainstream support for Vista ended back in 2012 and you've got less than a year left on on extended support. Move on.
Except that they aren't
How many security updates have been released for the main branch of Opera since the last update to Opera 35?
NONE.
End of line.
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opermo last edited by
Yes, they are. Unless you can show that they left a severe security issue unfixed for a long time and this put users in risk.
Even 30 if no severe security issue has been found during that time.
Saying that a software will get security updates means that it will receive those updates when needed not that it will receive constant updates.
You just contradicted yourself. If you agree that they never promised about the frequency of releases then you can't say that they broke the promise.
It may be 1 or 10 or 100. It will depends on if there are severe security issues not patched putting users in real risk.
What you say above would suggest that the regular security updates from Windows and browsers on Win7/8/10 are all only for minor issues. I would disagree with that.
Anyway, it's not because MS still supports an OS that all software makers need to support it.
True. But again, users are allowed to ask that they should and question when they don't.
For someone running an insecure OS
Which was payed for.
Mainstream support for Vista ended back in 2012 and you've got less than a year left on on extended support.
And I'd like to take advantage of those 9 remaining months.
Move on.
As of April 2017 when MS support/updates end (or if I get a new OS before that), I shall.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
What you say above would suggest that the regular security updates from Windows and browsers on Win7/8/10 are all only for minor issues. I would disagree with that.
I didn't say that but i guess i could say that 99% are related to minor issues. Major ones are usually disclosed in the media.
True. But again, users are allowed to ask that they should and question when they don't.
Instead of just update the OS and solve the problem for every software in it.
Which was payed for.
What doesn't mean that you need to use it for the rest of your life or even for the period of its expiration time.
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opermo last edited by
I didn't say that but i guess i could say that 99% are related to minor issues. Major ones are usually disclosed in the media.
Some major ones are disclosed in the media (and of those, months or even years after the flaws were created or exploited).
Instead of just update the OS and solve the problem for every software in it.
As my current OS was payed for, and the future one will be payed for too, I will continue to milk this one out while I search for a good computer that meets my needs with the next OS.
What doesn't mean that you need to use it for the rest of your life or even for the period of its expiration time.
So if someone pays for something and then others decide he shouldn't use it anymore, he's supposed to just drop it and go for the next thing (until he's told to drop that one, etc.)?
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blackbird71 last edited by...
And that tells you all you need to know about how much they "care" about their loyal users.
They didn't deem it appropriate to issue a security update for a web browser in three years?? Seriously??Or, it tells you how few new consequential security issues have arisen in 3 years for such a well-seasoned browser as was Presto Opera. Look at the CERT exploit records for named software to find out...
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
As my current OS was payed for, and the future one will be payed for too, I will continue to milk this one out while I search for a good computer that meets my needs with the next OS.
And you have the right to do it as well as anyone has the right to drive a 1960's car. However, both need to face the consequences of their decisions.
So if someone pays for something and then others decide he shouldn't use it anymore, he's supposed to just drop it and go for the next thing (until he's told to drop that one, etc.)?
Nope, i'm not saying that someone has to stop using something just because others are saying so.
What i'm saying is that you can stop using something for which you have paid for even before the end of its lifetime. The person can upgrade or replace it if s/he wants or needs better performance, access to newest features, etc and thinks it's worth.
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A Former User last edited by
would it be so hard for those of you to drop XP/Vista an move on to Windows 7 atleast you'd get the most up to date version of Opera and then you wouldn't have to moan and groan about not getting updates IF it is to hard for to get over then I suggest you get used to the idea of your OS becoming more and more unsupported by everything and stop with the grouching your OS is EOL so your SOL
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opermo last edited by
would it be so hard for those of you to drop XP/Vista an move on to Windows 7 atleast you'd get the most up to date version of Opera and then you wouldn't have to moan and groan...
Sure. You got a free Windows 7 upgrade for me?
And you have the right to do it as well as anyone has the right to drive a 1960's car.
You mean a 2000's car.
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lando242 last edited by
You mean a 2000's car.
Computers age out much, much faster than cars do. A nice car or truck from the late 80's, if it was high end for that period, would still be a decent car to drive today. Any computer from that era would not be.
The fastest computer in the world from 1985 to 1990 was the Cray 2. I cannot stress enough how amazing a feat it was to design a computer in 1985 that remained the most powerful in the world for 5 years. Computers were basically doubling in performance every 2 years. No other computer has ever even come close to reigning that long. The Cray 2 consumed up to 195 kilowatts of power and required a 480 volt three phase power supply. It weighed 5500 pounds.
It was about as powerful as an Apple iPad 2 from 2011.
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opermo last edited by
If anyone out there is still waiting for the Opera security update in XP/Vista, I hope it's clear by now that you shouldn't hold your breath.
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opermo last edited by
Not like you could hold your breath for the updates in the later versions either ...
It's sad.
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l33t4opera last edited byNew update for Windows XP, and Vista - Opera stable 36.0.2130.80
@davehawley @opermo @thebeacondeacon
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A Former User last edited by
Thanks! Opera 36 did not offer the update automatically, but it did when I did a manual check by going to the "About Opera" menu.
Is there a changelog anywhere?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the "Setup" file and the "Autoupdate" file on the FTP site? It's not offline and online installers as they seem to be pretty much the same size (around 36 and 35 MB respectively).
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A Former User last edited by
New update for Windows XP, and Vista - Opera stable 36.0.2130.80
@davehawley @opermo @thebeacondeaconAlso, does anyone know the difference between the "Setup" file and the "Autoupdate" file on the FTP site? It's not offline and online installers as they seem to be pretty much the same size (around 36 and 35 MB respectively).
The second is used by the auto-updater.
So which one should one get?
