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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      in the area of security (not features or enhancements) is using Opera 36 on Vista with the latest security updates (assuming one's receiving them) as safe as using the actual latest version of Opera (whatever number it is for the later versions of Windows)?

      I guess it will never br as it most probably will always be a few steps behind when compared to the latest version on a supported OS.

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      • lando242
        lando242 last edited by

        Asking if running Opera 36 on Vista is safe is like asking if the seatbelts in your car made of Papier-mΓ’chΓ© is safe. If you get hit by something it wont matter. Vista has been superseded not once, not twice, but three times. Its a ten year old operating system. Thats ancient in the computer world. It stopped getting priority testing and updates years ago. Whether Opera is completely up to date or not is not your most pressing concern. If updates were a major concern you should have upgraded your OS a few years ago.

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        • sgunhouse
          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

          Any updates that would require major changes to Chromium will not be made by Opera. If Chrome is supporting Vista (and XP) then Opera will, but Opera simply can't backport major changes from the current version to 36. Anything that can be done with a simple patch, sure, and changes to Opera's proprietary code, but anything more is not something they could do.

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          • davehawley
            davehawley last edited by

            At least Vista is still getting official security patches from Microsoft, and will for around another year IIRC.
            XP is only being patched for those who are spoofing that it's POSReady 2009, and those updates should last until 2019!
            It will be interesting to see just how up to date with security patches Opera can keep Opera 36 going forward.
            As you say, any patches that involve major changes in the Chromium engine will not be possible I suspect.
            πŸ™‚

            Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

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            • sgunhouse
              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              My antivirus downloads and installs Windows updates on my XP machine, no need for me to modify the registry.

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              • davehawley
                davehawley last edited by

                Off topic, but that's very interesting!
                Can you say which program that is?
                I've never heard about that anywhere else.
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                • sgunhouse
                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                  I'd have to look - I don't use that machine much. Either AVG, Avast or Avira, I have different free antivirus on each machine but forget which has which. When I do get on that machine I see it download Windows updates, so I know it (the antivirus) does. One of those "they all should" (but probably don't) things - how can they claim your machine is secure if they aren't installing updates to it?

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                  • joshl
                    joshl last edited by

                    Should we start a lounge topic on "Live Long Windows XP" or something like that? Seems pretty interesting. πŸ˜‰

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                    • davehawley
                      davehawley last edited by

                      I'd have to look - I don't use that machine much. Either AVG, Avast or Avira, I have different free antivirus on each machine but forget which has which. When I do get on that machine I see it download Windows updates, so I know it (the antivirus) does. One of those "they all should" (but probably don't) things - how can they claim your machine is secure if they aren't installing updates to it?

                      Ah, but is it actually installing Microsoft Windows updates to the machine, or is it just its own updates, virus patterns etc.?
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                      • sgunhouse
                        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        I see it download Windows updates (with those silly KB numbers they use) along with its own.

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                        • davehawley
                          davehawley last edited by

                          Well that sounds pretty conclusive!
                          However, I have looked at the websites of AVG, Avast and Avira, and found no mention of their software doing this.
                          I would really like to know which of them is doing it!
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                          • sgunhouse
                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Finally unburied that machine (it's a netbook - slow processor, only 1 GB RAM - so I don't use it much) and it has Avast. When the antivirus program (not the definitions file, the program) updates itself it also installs the Windows updates. Of course, that means it's updating the program roughly once a month ...

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                            • opermo
                              opermo last edited by

                              My Avast (which is the latest version) does not do that.

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                              • davehawley
                                davehawley last edited by

                                Interesting, thanks for that.
                                I will have to investigate further, but I could find no mention of this facility on Avast's site.
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                                Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

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                                • sgunhouse
                                  sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  No idea if it is giving me all updates or only the ones they think are needed, but if you watch it update (as I did yesterday and have done before) you'll see it say "Executing kb_######.i86.exe /silent" during the later part of the update. (where ###### is some 6-digit number, I think the one I saw yesterday was 970152 but didn't write it down.)

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                                  • joshl
                                    joshl last edited by

                                    Maybe it's just that all updates go through the antivirus there. πŸ˜›

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                                    • wm4bama
                                      wm4bama last edited by

                                      Has anyone received an update for Vista systems after installing
                                      Version: 36.0.2130.75 - Opera is up to date
                                      Update stream: Stable
                                      System: Windows Vista 32-bit?

                                      I use the menu option "About Opera" daily and always get the above results...

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        Has anyone received an update for Vista systems after installing
                                        Version: 36.0.2130.75

                                        There wasn't any AFAIK.

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                                        • opermo
                                          opermo last edited by

                                          Still 36.0.2130.75.
                                          Does anyone know if there'll be an security update anytime this month?

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            Does anyone know if there'll be an security update anytime this month?

                                            Nope and there is no way to know unless the person works for Opera.

                                            Anyway, i think you shouldn't expect that many updates.

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