Moving to opera 20 from opera 12.16

  • Just another long time opera user (v3 or v4, don't remember exactly, but it was way back when opera was shareware) Those were the times when changelog with added features from x.xx to x.xx+1 was longer than changelog now from 15 to 20.
    Opera 12.16 is (was) great, but every day rises the number of incompatible sites or sites that has something broken. The new opera is pretty featureless, so it's not a natural choice.

    I'm aware that many features will never come back, and that the new opera is basically a chromium web-engine relying on extensions for (advanced?) features.

    But on second thought the new opera, although crippled, is still better than competition. So now i'm in process of getting used to use the 20. I browsed the blogs, forums and other web corners, but wasn't able to find a central list for feature substitution.
    I need some help from more experienced users, to find the replacement for essential (to me) features from opera 12 in the new opera.

    I know that for notes i can use evernote extension.
    Lastpass will replace wand. Although all the u/p are migrated from 12, i still didn't find the way how to choose from several usernames on the same site. Wand is for great for all the sites requiring loging where security was not an issue.

    1. Bookmarks. I got all of them in the bar, but sorting is a mess. What is the best way (extension) for organizing bookmarks or just mimic the original bookmarks in 12?

    2. Tab bar placement. Any way to get the tabs on the bottom?

    3. Status bar. Anything that resembles it? Need the number of elements and opening speed.

    4. Do not re-use the current tab. I like everything to open its tab, not to use the current. Some hidden option/extension?

    5. Links panel.

    6. Cache browser.

    7. Content blocking. What is now the best content blocker, since there is not a built one in 20?

    8. Search engines. Is it possible somehow to got the search fields on some bar? Or at least icons in right click pop-up?

    9. Custom buttons. Any way to got some buttons for internal command/options. I need the most "enable proxy" check mark. Now is is hidden deep into menu (it was also in the 12, but there was option to bring it up)

    10. Dictionary. Best way to replace the built-in dictionary search? Just to make another search or some extension?

    That's all for now, it's just my second day with the new opera.

    1. Right-click a folder, sort alphabetically
    2. Not yet
    3. Not that I know of
    4. Shift click and ctrl shift click middle-click and shift middle-click
    5. Not yet
    6. Don't know
    7. Don't know
    8. Not sure
    9. No
    10. Make a custom search in Settings
  • To 7: I use the Adblock-Extension. Fast and blocks very safe.

  • In your old Opera 12.16 save your old bookmarks as an HTML file on your hard drive.
    Settings>Import export>export bookmarks as HTML

    Save them with a name such as MYBOOKMARKS

    Now open them in old opera PAGE>OPEN>MYBOOKMARKS

    Now when all the Bookmarks appear in the box above that displays the link
    mouse over the link and RIGHT CLICK MOUSE and hit COPY

    CLOSE your old Opera 12.16 Browser.

    OPEN your new Opera 20.00 Browser.
    Clear the existing link and Right Click Paste and Go!
    Insert the MYBOOKMARKS into your new Opera 20.00 Browser and save.
    NOW all your old bookmarks are available in your in Opera 20.00

  • Thanks to all.
    I was afraid that most of the answers will be negative.

    @pesala

    1. Thanks for the tip for sorting. I can live with that.

    (4). Doesn't work everywhere. Ex. eight click on selected text>go to web address.

  • just loaded Opera 20 30 mins ago, I've all ready removed it back on 12.16. It didn't seem to copy my Speed dials or book marks, I've used Opera for 8 or 9 years 20 just didn't feel right. I could not find how to set tool-bars and bookmarks to my liking, and I failed to find what I was looking for and gave up I have better things to do with my time. I might have to go to google

  • thanks oldgit.

    actually i wanted to answer via Opera 12 but hey it just do'nt work. I have to use Chrome
    Funny huh?

    (when logged in and click forums i always have the 'sign in' button. But when clicking answer i am redirected to my personal page. Anyway it was a nice time with Opera)

    Live long and prosper !

  • just loaded Opera 20 30 mins ago, I've all ready removed it back on 12.16. It didn't seem to copy my Speed dials or book marks, I've used Opera for 8 or 9 years 20 just didn't feel right. I could not find how to set tool-bars and bookmarks to my liking, and I failed to find what I was looking for and gave up I have better things to do with my time. I might have to go to google

    If you're willing to go to Google's Chrome and learn where things are, why not spend time on Opera 20 and do the same? Or... at least install Opera 20 alongside Google Chrome to keep apace of its development.

  • Last time I checked Chrome, there was a service running in the background, transfering data both ways, and the browser wasn't even launched... More than a browser, a Big Brother. 🙂

  • When activating JS from the start i am able to answer here.
    I would love to use Opera (12) to watch Youtube, but since about 6 months it just did'nt work. From one day to the other it was unpossible. So yea i am just leaving myself to chrome. Im a part of their data-system now, but it is irresistible. ILY !!

    ok i will test 20 but 'Woe betide you'! If there is no rocker navigation !!

  • I guess many people already ask, but i don't find this threads, so i'm asking again.
    How can i transfer my passwords from Opera 12 to 20?
    Thx for your help

  • Maybe no way. There seems no personal info in 20 (?) F12 is away. But dial is cool. 20 loaded 10 min my 60 dial bookmarks. Nice. Maybe im just dumb or to old.

    20 is a good alternative to chrome for watching YT

    but how to turn screen into Black/White ??

    Opera is so funny

  • Hi, how can I place the TAB-bar to the left? Now it is in top position. That sucks. I tried to drag it somehow - nothing. The "opera"-Button in the upper left corner doesn't provides for those adjustments.
    I wonder, what sort of guys produced such a bullshit. This is the opposite of an improvement concerning handling and offering a low entry barrier for people trying opera.
    Anyway. Ideas? Greetings from Germany

  • Sidestep. Funny Bunny. Hope you will survive. Farewell

  • after designing user interfaces for about 10 years, I'm simply shocked relating software quality these days. Younger people (software programmer) shouldn't be seen as "innovative" only because they make lots of things, an experienced programmer would dump instantly. Sucks. How many loads of shit one can bear.
    ...back to the problem: how can I place the TAB-bar to the left?
    THX

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