opera 20 vs Chrome

A Former User

Yes, not yet. There has been ONE year since Opera's initial transition announcement, but to date Link support is still not provided in these Opera 15+ version bumps.
Link is provided in experimental state since Opera 19.

I know but it takes time, I mean, it's normal. I miss it a lot too but I see that they have to work on a lot of other things and not only Opera Link. And when we compare to Opera Presto it's understandable:

Opera 9.1 was released in December 18, 2006. Then first Opera alpha build with Opera Link (9.5) has been released on September 4, 2007 (9.2 comes here in the middle) and the 9.5 final version came in June 12, 2008. That's +-18 months for a feature to come from "scratch" to final. Now for 15+ they're rewriting almost the whole UI from scratch and implementing many different things up to Opera 21 and it hasn't been a year.

With all the other extension APIs they're implementing in each new version we can figure out they can't simply copy the code from Chromium and have it there enabled instantly (otherwise everything would be working in 15.0 already), and more so with things implemented differently from Chromium (the mechanisms for Speed Dials, Stash, etc) I suppose the server-side and client-side sync code couldn't be simply copied from Chromium (needless to say they can't just copy from Presto either).

Deleted User

Deleted User

I had no idea it took that long to implement Link back then. Thanks for the information.

alica

alica

Sorry for my fault for not noticing the opera:flags option, but the Link feature currently provided does not include bookmarks, which is my most used portion inside Opera Link. Only able to access my bookmarks through link.opera.com is not an option to me.

vinczej

vinczej

I have these reasons, why I prefer Opera over Chrome:

Speed Dial packages, more usability
Closing last tab doesn't close browser
I can use both Opera extensions and Chrome extensions

And of course I'm waiting for classic Opera features

Deleted User

Deleted User

The current Opera browser is Opera in name only. Though I use it anyway.

juliestiles

juliestiles

There are enough posts in this topic for people to read through and understand the things I'm talking about, and these have nothing to do with whether I'm an employee or not.
But LOL, just because I figure out things and post my bets and assumptions based on publicly available info I "have unnaturally geeky insider knowledge concerning opera's inner workings" and therefore I'm an employee... If I inform people there's a contest somewhere for us to vote (and of course for Opera since these are the Opera forums if you haven't noticed yet) that means I'm an Opera employee and not just a supporter. I could go on...
What's funny is I post feature requests or disagree with some things they say/intend to/implement in these forums and Opera blogs myself. If I was an employee I wouldn't need to do that, you can't see any employee doing that. I'd be certainly advised to not do that actually, since these discussions are meant to be internal.

You really do seem to be a worker. Who says "these have nothing to do with whether I'm an employee or not"? It's like your evasive or something. Your a little jerky in a lot of your posts so maybe that's why you hide it I guess? I mean you did really say his children were dumb and for no reason. Just as long as people know your doing so on your time and not Opera's time. See.

blackbird71

blackbird71

You really do seem to be a worker. ... It's like your evasive or something. ... so maybe that's why you hide it I guess? ... Just as long as people know your doing so on your time and not Opera's time.

@rafaelluik stated a few posts up: "I'm not an Opera Software employee." It can hardly be stated any more clearly, and either you believe him or you are calling him a liar. This entire business of innuendo and nagging character-assassination is out of place in a rational discussion. Whether the points a person makes come from the perspective of one who is an Opera employee, an Opera "loyalist", a "neutral" user, or an Opera critic ought not to impact the validity (or lack of same) and the genuine facts (or lack) in what they're saying. Their comments should stand on their own, and be addressed as such, not responded to with ad-hominem attacks on the person making the comments.

4o3werfsfjsdlkq234we

4o3werfsfjsdlkq234we

rafaelluik;
The thing (for me at least) is not that it have functions that isn't available in Chrome. The things that make me feel that it is a copy of Chrome is the design and functions which seem to have been made to look like Chrome. Sure, Opera 21 might have some unique functions. But still Opera have made many functions work like Chrome and that is why I think why Opera 21 feels like Chrome.

Also, Opera have deleted many different functions in the last updates which Chrome didn't really have or at least not as good functions. Why?

lem729

lem729

@4o3werfsfjsdlkq234we

State the feature you're concerned about. What are the functions that you believe Opera deleted and that you want. That might help. Perhaps the feature is there or one can help you find it via extension.. Posting generalizations help no one address your concern. On looks/appearance, what is it they say: you can't judge a book by it's cover, though I think the speak dial look of Opera 21(with its folders and background wallpaper) is awesome and unique. In any event, Chrome is not all a loss. It has some/many features that people like. It's isn't a popular browser for no reason. It's sort of browser assassination to deride something because it has a feature/or features Chrome has. In any event, Opera has features that clearly distinguish it from Chrome. As to what Opera had before, the new Opera browser is faster, has better access to a wider range of sites. Further the new Opera gives the user huge customization possibilities through Opera extensions, and also Chrome extensions. See discussion (perhaps you missed it) by rafaelluik in this thread on key features distinguishing the new Opera from Chrome: https://forums.opera.com/post/31150

Deleted User

Deleted User

After more than 10 years of using only Opera, I switch to Chrome few month ago. It was a bit hard to get used to but I did and now I am loving it. Not close as much as I loved using Opera ( until version 12.xx) but still better than whatever Opera does now. Once a month I come back to see if something good happened to deeply beloved browser but no. Opera team abandoned us and it looks like they go further away from good things that made Opera such a great browser. Sad.
I was looking for the same answers myself for a very long time and found not a single reason to use Opera Chromium over Google's original pure Chrome.

lem729

lem729

No, Opera 22 differs from Chrome

https://forums.opera.com/post/42825

A Former User

Some people are finding Stash useful, maybe they can give some tips on how to use it and for what. It displays saved pages' screenshots and indexes some page content to quickly filter using the search box.

I use it like Firefox's Unsorted Bookmarks. One click to quckly bookmark a page to read at a later date but not permanently store on the bookmarks bar

blackbird71

blackbird71

After more than 10 years of using only Opera, I switch to Chrome few month ago. It was a bit hard to get used to but I did and now I am loving it. Not close as much as I loved using Opera ( until version 12.xx) but still better than whatever Opera does now. Once a month I come back to see if something good happened to deeply beloved browser but no. Opera team abandoned us and it looks like they go further away from good things that made Opera such a great browser. Sad.
I was looking for the same answers myself for a very long time and found not a single reason to use Opera Chromium over Google's original pure Chrome.

I'm just trying to understand why you'd move from Opera to Chrome if you really loved Opera up until version 12.xx. What does Chrome provide along the "old Opera" line that Blink Opera doesn't? I'm still baffled by the readers who mention this same choosing, given that the same extensions can essentially be applied to either browser, and there are several things in Blink Opera that aren't available in Chrome. Moving to Firefox or one of its clones, I can at least understand because it's architecturally different from all the Chrome/Chromium variants, so it will look and behave quite differently to some users.

avecaesar

avecaesar

I'm here with Google Chrome!

lem729

lem729

Welll, get the hell back to Opera -- now Opera 22.

sauser

sauser

Did anybody mention that Opera doesn't close the browser when you close the last tab? I think it's megaton! It's a bit faster than Chrome also! Has a nicer main menu. I'm writing this comment on my new chrome-canary-64 though.

A Former User

In the #8 post.

uggrak

uggrak

This thread got a little out of hand and it seems the creator thought the same.
I cont give or think about any reason really to use the new Opera, I still use 12.17, but it is a little irritating with resource-hogging.

One thing that I can NEVER understand in these threads here is the term and in what way SPEED-dial is used.
For me that term indicates a short "list" of easily and very quickly accessed items. In a phone it would mostly be numbers.
Here it is web pages.
But as many try to convince the complainers (me included) the seems to want you to use it as a sort of bookmarkish-alternative.

When you have more than maybe 10 items, its not really a SPEED-Dial anymore, and certainly not if you have folders in it...
I don't really under stand that. Its just some sort of Bookmarks-alternative that is not as easily over viewed and organized imo.

A Former User

@uggrak "Speed Dial" here: https://forums.opera.com/post/42825

When you have more than maybe 10 items, its not really a SPEED-Dial anymore, and certainly not if you have folders in it...
What? You can still access the first 10 items very fast, and the access to all the other items and items in folders is not really different than a bookmarks menu with sub-folders. Specially if you use the keyboard to access your bookmarks.

It's quite possible to use Speed Dial for bookmarks. I do. For sessions too. I just recommend people to try it, if it doesn't work for you it's very easy to enable the bookmarks bar and drag your folders there... Or use a bookmarks extension, it's worth it if you like the other Opera features (if you miss classic bookmarks in Opera why not install a bookmarks extension rather than switching to another browser and installing extensions like "Neater Bookmarks" on it to recover the features you'd miss?).

ayushs

ayushs

I'd been using Opera, since the 90's when there used to be banners. Like I was a big fan of Opera since, as @cfpt pointed, it was awesome. I recently switched to Chromium and eventually to Chrome. Few reasons:

Both Chrome/Chromium and Opera now use the webkit browser underneath the hood so the rendering time of the pages are just the same.
As a developer compared to Opera DragonFly, Google Developer tools are easier to use and more importantly loads faster. I'm writing in reference to Opera 20.
I often travel to rural areas in Asia as a part of my work where 256 Kbps internet is a luxury. At such times, the author-mode and no-image mode used to be lifesavers along with the turbo-boost. Opera 20 doesn't have those customizations available anymore.

Disappointed.