Where are the bookmarks in Opera 18?
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Deleted User last edited by
Before posting please educate yourself in relation to Opera's new browser. V.18 is capable of far more that v.15 and I suspect your 5 or 10 minutes with the new browser has given you the wrong idea. I'm not going to fill you in on what you're missing. You can do that by reading the developers' blogs.
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lucazanottifragonara last edited by
Please, do you really think that the Opera link web page is a solution? I think that it is something like 8 years or more that I use Opera. I find really frustrating that Opera Link has not yet been implemented in the interface of new version browsers. It is something like 6 months or more that bookmarks don't work properly. I think I'll switch to another browser if they are not going to fix it in a reasonable time. And I am really sad about this, because I really like Opera.
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softmoonwebware last edited by
I must be blind, dumb, or stupid cause I don't see any reference anywhere to a _Quick access bar_ on Opera 18 that I just downloaded minutes ago. Just a stash that has no way to load bookmarks into.
Why release this junk? Who doesn't use bookmarks? Even a quick access bar would not work for my mom who has no organization skills and bookmarks her pages into one big folder.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by softmoonwebware:
Even a quick access bar would not work for my mom who has no organization skills and bookmarks her pages into one big folder.
Your mom would be better off using the Stash, which has a search field.
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softmoonwebware last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
There%27s" target="_blank">https://files.myopera.com/Pesala/files/Opera%2018%20Bookmark%20Importer.png]There%27s a bookmark importer on the Opera Menu, Tools submenu. If that's greyed out, then search the forum for "importer" or "bookmarks."
There is no bookmarks toolbar offered to me when I import. I just downloaded Opera 18 today.
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softmoonwebware last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Originally posted by softmoonwebware:
Even a quick access bar would not work for my mom who has no organization skills and bookmarks her pages into one big folder.
Your mom would be better off using the Stash, which has a search field.
You've been up for too many days high on YOUR stash, twwekin on 27000 blog posts, my friend of the devil.
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softmoonwebware last edited by
The real problem is that by using Opera 10 some years ago, when it WAS the best browser, locked me into its favorites in the first place. No browser can import from Opera, and Opera 12.16 mangles the HTML export of the favorites, so not only do sub-foldlers become top-level folders, many folders just disappear and their contents mingle randomly at the top-level. And I am only guessing that no links were lost that way...
So to move to another browser becomes a real pain when you have 1000 links.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by softmoonwebware:
27000 blog posts
:yes: :hat: :wizard: I think I deserve a
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tradeofjane last edited by
Originally posted by softmoonwebware:
The real problem is that by using Opera 10 some years ago, when it WAS the best browser, locked me into its favorites in the first place. No browser can import from Opera, and Opera 12.16 mangles the HTML export of the favorites, so not only do sub-foldlers become top-level folders, many folders just disappear and their contents mingle randomly at the top-level. And I am only guessing that no links were lost that way...
So to move to another browser becomes a real pain when you have 1000 links.
I've had no problem exporting my bookmarks and sub-folders over to Firefox. The only problem is having to sort them manually. http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sort-bookmarks-quickly-find-ones-you-want
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berng last edited by
Originally posted by Tradeofjane:
Originally posted by softmoonwebware:
The real problem is that by using Opera 10 some years ago, when it WAS the best browser, locked me into its favorites in the first place. No browser can import from Opera, and Opera 12.16 mangles the HTML export of the favorites, so not only do sub-foldlers become top-level folders, many folders just disappear and their contents mingle randomly at the top-level. And I am only guessing that no links were lost that way...
So to move to another browser becomes a real pain when you have 1000 links.
I've had no problem exporting my bookmarks and sub-folders over to Firefox. The only problem is having to sort them manually. http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sort-bookmarks-quickly-find-ones-you-want
Use the Firefox addon Auto-Sort Bookmarks
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-sort-bookmarks/?src=userprofile -
p114 last edited by
Good question - where are the bookmarks?
How do I import bookmarks if there is not prior Opera installation?
After reading this thread, it appears that I am to intuit that first I'm to install Google Chrome, import my bookmarks to them, export them to something else, and then import to Opera from Chrome. I went to Opera to avoid Chrome in the first place! ANd then I discover that Opera apparently does not support frames, whcih is kind of critical when the CAD software "Help" files require them. WHich was one of the reasons I was attempting to go back to Opera after all these years - I need to use those help files!
As for importing bookmakes (some how) and then sorting them manually.... if I only had a dozen or so, it might be viable. But I have more than a dozen bookmarks, the html file is 738K, and the toolbar starts with 8 buttons for the top level on the Bookmarks toolbar.
I wanted to get Opera up and running so I could get back to work. I already have enough non-sequitor "instructions" which make no sense, I didn't need another layer of nurdling cordwainers prior to deplenrating the nurfor trunion dingle arms.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by p114:
As for importing bookmarks (some how) and then sorting them manually
If you can figure out the first bit, sorting them is easy enough.
I would not bother with Opera 18, but just install Opera 11.64 or 12.16, which can import your bookmarks from other browsers.
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stevenjcee last edited byI agree rilef, this is currently a big mess. The directions are difficult to find, complicated, Opera even warns anything could happen, and it's ridiculous there is just not some simple way to create & store bookmarks. I also wonder where the hundreds of bookmarks I had in Opera previously are, and if they can be "re-imported" back, if there was an importer, that imported bookmarks...
Not being a full on computer geek, I am not willing to jump through a whole lot of complicated, confusing hoops, potentially harmful to other aspects, especially when there's not even unanimous agreement as to how effective a workaround it actually is. By removing many of the most basic functions of a browser, including this one, without communicating why & what is happening, and when changes will be coming, and if they'll be returned, the developers may be left with few users left to make use of their efforts.... -
Deleted User last edited by
It's been that lack of communication from the get-go that has been one of the major disappointments as well as the Achilles heel of the new browser. Very unfortunate that even now, after months of complaint threads, we still have relatively little communication regarding these issues. I'm at a loss to explain it.
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stevenjcee last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Simple solutions are often the best — at least until something better is available.
Users who have synchronised Opera can simply bookmark this page to find their bookmarks using any browser without needing to import them anywhere.
Well, that looks like it could be a "simple solution", if it actually explained how, instead of only "for now, you can use this web interface to access your bookmarks and other data," which basically, tells me nothing. So, HOW do you use this web interface, exactly?
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stevenjcee last edited by
Originally posted by rilef:
Originally posted by StevenCee:
I agree ... this is currently a big mess.
I did not say that this is a mess, big or otherwise. To the contrary, I don't see a few proposed menu name changes and moving of menus as a big deal. Opera 18+ will work fine, with or without these changes. But, the current menu names and structure should be changed, for no other reason than to avoid user confusion.
Originally posted by StevenCee:
I also wonder where the hundreds of bookmarks I had in Opera previously are, and if they can be "re-imported" back, if there was an importer, that imported bookmarks...
If you don't have Chrome installed, import your Opera 12 bookmarks, as HTML, into Chrome Portable. Then copy the Chrome Portable bookmark files ("Bookmarks" and "Favicons" and "Favicons-journal") from the Chrome Portable user profile folder to the Opera 18 user profile folder. If you already have Chrome installed, just copy the Chrome bookmark files into Opera. Your bookmarks are now "re-imported".
You also can create a portable/USB version of Opera 18+. Then import your bookmarks into this USB version of Opera, using the command line, as described here. Be sure not to use your regular version of Opera 18+ for this, since your existing Opera 18+ profile will absolutely be destroyed. Instead, use a separate, USB version of Opera. Then copy the bookmark files from the USB version of Opera 18+, and overwrite these same files in your regular version of Opera 18+. And, of course, you should backup, by making copies beforehand, of all your bookmark files in your regular version.
Well, it seems like a mess, to me, who for over 20 years, never had to jump through lots of technical hoops just to store, use, & create bookmarks, in any previous browser. I do have Chrome, and Firefox, & Safari, and had many bookmarks in whatever the last version of Opera that allowed them was. Using a browser should be a simple, pain-free means to navigate the internet, not something that occupies many waking hours, tweaking, and adjusting, and re-arranging everything, every time a new version is released. If Opera is going to become a "geek-only" vehicle, then users like myself will just give up, and leave it to you pros...
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by StevenCee:
So, HOW do you use this web interface, exactly?
Much the same as you use the Bookmarks Panel. Open a folder, and click a bookmark link.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by StevenCee:
Well, it seems like a mess, to me, who for over 20 years, never had to jump through lots of technical hoops just to store, use, & create bookmarks, in any previous browser. I do have Chrome, and Firefox, & Safari, and had many bookmarks in whatever the last version of Opera that allowed them was. Using a browser should be a simple, pain-free means to navigate the internet, not something that occupies many waking hours, tweaking, and adjusting, and re-arranging everything, every time a new version is released. If Opera is going to become a "geek-only" vehicle, then users like myself will just give up, and leave it to you pros...
Hi Steven. The irony is that Opera Presto was viewed as the geeks' browser and Opera Blink is looked upon as a browser sorely lacking in features and configurability (to coin a word). The "new" browser is in a state of development and lacking many of the features you have come to depend upon so for the time being, it's probably better for you to stick with v.12.16 but keep an eye on the new browser and even run a separate installation of it and watch it grow. I agree with you that a browser should be relatively pain-free and that is what the new browser is hoped to become but the truth is, they rushed the new version out the door knowing it lacked many features that would ultimately cause a fair amount of confusion among users. It's possible to bookmark your favorite sites by using the Quick Access Bar. As for those sites you use on a regular basis, you might want to assign them to the Speed Dial. Stash is really meant for those sites you want to "read later" so to speak but not necessarily permanently bookmark. If you are having trouble setting up the QAB, just ask. Pesala has some posts in which he shows graphically how it can be done and if he doesn't have time to respond, I'll try and help.
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mrurban3 last edited by
I gotta weigh in here. Been using Opera for years, and quite happy with it. Now on 12.18. I was kinda curious when I saw references to v16 or v15 or whatever, but when prompted by Opera to upgrade I did so - it never got me off the "12" track. Updated several times this year - 2013.
A web print issue sent me to the "current" version, which turned out to be 18.0.+++. Installed it. Unlike every other Opera version update/install, it didn't "overwrite and update," but installed as a second instance of Opera. Instantly, no Bookmarks. And the sparse look of Chrome, which I'd already have if I wanted it. No visible home page. No obvious place for clicking on Settings - even 12.18 has buried some of that stuff, to my unhappiness. I already spend enough time playing "puzzles" on computers - how do I do this or that - I don't need to add my browser to that list.
I promptly uninstalled it - didn't want the hassles of learning a program that has been mostly visually intuitive in the past. No ax to grind. Gave it a two minute trial and didn't at all like what I found. If I wanted changing "locations+" WITH NO EXPLANATION OF THE CHANGES, I'd do Microsoft programs. (Oh yeah, with every OS change - changes with no critical documentation provided to users.)
Then my "loyalty" to the program made me come here. What have I missed? Where were the dang bookmarks? And I find that Opera made huge changes with no "upfront" explanation to users. No wonder "we" are upset! It like Microsoft Word introducing the Ribbon with no info - suddenly you can't even do what you used to do. Admittedly, some users wrote "poorly." But for Opera moderators to get snippy with them for not finding new, unintuitive, unfamiliar ways to do "old" things that were simpler is not going to win friends nor users.
If you are going to radically change the way to do things, you really ought to plan on explaining it and making it easy to change. It appears Opera has not done that. Having to come to a Forum or do detailed, repeated searches for an "old, simple" task is not what a typical user expects.
It's good that old versions are still working, and that there are alternatives.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by mrurban3:
Admittedly, some users wrote "poorly." But for Opera moderators to get snippy with them for not finding new, unintuitive, unfamiliar ways to do "old" things that were simpler is not going to win friends nor users.
I don't see a single comment from a moderator in this entire thread, let alone a snippy one. If the moderators had got a lot more snippy by closing all of these rant threads at once, it might be easier to find useful information on importing bookmarks, etc.
Yes, for the foreseeable future there is no alternative but to use an old version. Opera 20 developer version is still not even close to being a viable choice yet, let alone Opera 18 final.
