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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      @elvennoia

      I came here because i just found out there's no "open" context menu, so technically i have to open on new tab, close the previous tab and rinse repeat to all those sites that do so. good!!!
      Is your left mouse button broken?

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      • lem729
        lem729 last edited by

        right? for the context menu

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          right is right for the context menu, but use left click to open a link in the current tab, so there is no need to open a new tab and close the current one.

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          • linuxmint7
            linuxmint7 last edited by

            @elvennoia means there is no 'Open with' context menu entry in Opera Blink, like there was in Opera Presto.

            I'm pretty sure his/her left and right mouse buttons are working fine. 😃

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              @linuxmint7 he/she doesn't mean that.

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              • linuxmint7
                linuxmint7 last edited by

                @rafaelluik

                Are you sure ?.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Are you sure ?
                  Yes, he/she clearly mentions dealing with tabs (not with different browsers).

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                  • lem729
                    lem729 last edited by

                    @nightmaresoul,

                    I did notice where Chrookmarks in the Chrome store is a bookmark manager that lets you organize your bookmarks alphabetically and chronologically, or so one of the commenters on the app says. I haven't tried it, but it looks like a possibility for you if you want more than just organizing alphabetically.

                    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrookmarks-chrome-bookma/kcdheengilgkagjehknnnofigbmlnnfj?hl=en-US

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                    • werewolf
                      werewolf last edited by

                      @nightmaresoul,
                      I did notice where Chrookmarks in the Chrome store is a bookmark manager that lets you organize your bookmarks alphabetically and chronologically, or so one of the commenters on the app says. I haven't tried it, but it looks like a possibility for you if you want more than just organizing alphabetically.
                      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrookmarks-chrome-bookma/kcdheengilgkagjehknnnofigbmlnnfj?hl=en-US

                      I just want a bookmark panel that STAYS OPEN on the left side of my screen, like Opera 12 and previous had, and like Firefox still has.

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                      • rabbitkillrun
                        rabbitkillrun last edited by

                        There still aren't bookmarks? I was one of the many complaining about this when Opera Next first came out and several people told me that it was coming soon. If it's been this long and they still haven't added even that back in, I'm severely doubting I'll ever be switching to it. 😞

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                        • lem729
                          lem729 last edited by

                          @rabbitkillrun

                          There's tons of bookmarking in Opera 20, so much bookmarking you can get dizzy with it. There's an abundance of riches in the bookmarking, so please, don't confuse people. You can bookmark in the Speed Dial (huge amounts, because you can create folders), bookmark in the personal toolbar huge amounts, use bookmark manager extensions. As I mentioned to nightmaresoul in this thread, I use Chrookmarks from the Chrome store, and it's pretty good. I already posted a link to it for him, so you can easily find it.

                          And one person was telling me that they had 1000 bookmarks alone in Stash. Now I personally wouldn't do that with Stash (but there are so many other places to do it), but certainly there's incredible amounts of bookmarking that can be done in Opera 20 if you take some time to learn Opera 20. More Bookmarking is possible in Opera 20 (because of the voluminous space in the Speed Dial (with folders) than in Opera 12.17.

                          By the way @werewolf, I see where there's even an extension called, Bookmark Side Panel in the Chrome Store. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bookmarks-side-panel/ankkfflbgjokclfgfehiinnlijdlicdb?hl=en-US

                          Now I'm not recommending it. I have no idea about it, but panels are at least being worked on as extensions.

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                          • 90soperahippie
                            90soperahippie last edited by

                            Isn't Opera for everyone who has tried Chrome and finds fault?

                            Chome is a joke and example of Open Source failure. It freezes my 8 gig ram, quad core machine...Contantly!

                            The cache is NOT controllable. The rendering is slow. It takes chrome 2 minutes to initialize. Everything done poorly.

                            Opera, oth, has had some bad versions. But on whole is much more of a rock. Not as dumbed down as Chrome. Open source loves to rip out features and improvements for a the stupidest user base.

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                            • werewolf
                              werewolf last edited by

                              @rabbitkillrun
                              ...
                              By the way @werewolf, I see where there's even an extension called, Bookmark Side Panel in the Chrome Store. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bookmarks-side-panel/ankkfflbgjokclfgfehiinnlijdlicdb?hl=en-US
                              Now I'm not recommending it. I have no idea about it, but panels are at least being worked on as extensions.

                              Unfortunately it gets very bad reviews. But at least someone is working on it. Many people want it. Opera's bookmark side panel used to be especially nice because I could simply click on the left margin to open or close the side panel.

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                              • lem729
                                lem729 last edited by

                                @werewold

                                The side panels have a nice aesthetic look, and give you a pleasing vertical layout of bookmarks. Perhaps, the panels slow the brower down. Or take a lot of complex programming. I'm a bit of an ignoramus there, ;))) I do think that if they could be done easily and without impairing browser performance, we'd have them In Opera Blink. But an improvement in the extension ability to do this is likely because there is demand. I think the new paradign for Opera is to keep browser lean and fast and rely on developers to give extensions for the rest.

                                Still, all may not be lost. 😉 for a short term adjustment, waiting for . . . .( as for Godot, haha the sidebar), you can a nice vertical layout of bookmarks (but you do need to click on a toolbar icon for the extension to get that vertical layout, if you use something like Chrookmarks or Tidy Bookmars) (from the Chrome store), and there are other possibilities there that I haven't checked out. I like Chrookmarks because you can order it either chronologically or alphabetically, it sets out folders first, and makes them easy to manage. One makes adjustments . . . Not everything is as before (change involves initially pluses and minuses), but it can be liveable on the way to . . . why, (like Godot) . . . everything is coming up roses. A song. Lol.

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                                • wfheller
                                  wfheller last edited by

                                  I have been using Opera since Windows 3.1 and I had to pay for it. I have also payed for versions 4, 5, 6 until it became free with version 7. That is why I hate the chromium version since opera 15. I have currently version 20 on my laptop but rarely use it because it is just a Chrome clone but one without bookmarks and no mouse gestures that can compare with versio 12.16 which is my standard browser. I hve transported my bookmarks to Firefox and Safari and even IE with Transmute.
                                  But i hpoe that in the near future the guys in norway have seen their error and make an Opera with bookmarks and complete mouse gestures including the ability to redefine most used commands to one letter abreveations. I think that jrista is absolutely right in his complaint and I agree with it 100%.

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                                  • wfheller
                                    wfheller last edited by

                                    Using the Microsoft Internals program Process Explorer I find that both Chrome and Opera20 use a gigantic amount of storage both working set and private bytes - they add up to about 3 times the size of Opera12.16. And why is it necesary to start 8 subthreaths when Opera12 uses only one for the plugin-wrapper.

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                                    • berng
                                      berng last edited by

                                      I have been using Opera since Windows 3.1 and I had to pay for it. I have also payed for versions 4, 5, 6 until it became free with version 7. That is why I hate the chromium version since opera 15.

                                      I really don't understand what paying for very early versions of Opera (4,5,6) has to do with hating Chromium versions.

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                                      • lem729
                                        lem729 last edited by

                                        @wheller.

                                        Opera 20 is absolutely not a browser without bookmarks. Where do you come up with something like that. I mean if people repeat something over and over again, it does not make it true. It's nonsense. Absolute, and total. Opera 20 has tons and tons of bookmarking -- from in the Speed Dial (with folders), to the Personal bookmarks toolbar to, Stash to bookmarking extensions in both the Opera and Chrome extension stores. It has more bookmarking possibilities than probably any browser on the market, and cerainly more than IE, Firefox, and Chrome (all of which I have on my computer and tested). I'll take Opera 20 for bookmarking any day. I can listen to and understand other gripes, but this one is beyond ridiculous,

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                                        • lem729
                                          lem729 last edited by

                                          @90soperahippie

                                          Isn't Opera for everyone who has tried Chrome and finds fault? Chome is a joke and example of Open Source failure. It freezes my 8 gig ram, quad core machine...Contantly!
                                          The cache is NOT controllable. The rendering is slow. It takes chrome 2 minutes to initialize. Everything done poorly.
                                          Opera, oth, has had some bad versions. But on whole is much more of a rock. Not as dumbed down as Chrome. Open source loves to rip out features and improvements for a the stupidest user base.

                                          You have a point. :))) I have a strange situation, where I hardly use Chrome, I use Opera 20, but I get messages on my computer (from my Norton software) every now and then of huge CPU use (95 percent on one CPU or something like that) coming from the Chrome browser. I haven't even opened the browser on my computer. Now I did have a check in my settings there -- "continue running background apps when Google Chrome is closed." I don't know what those background apps are, but they sure have been running my computer into the ground. I have taken the check out. What kind of background apps could eat up so much of my CPU. Hopefully taking the check out, will solve the problem. If I still get the CPU messages, I may have to uninstall Chrome.

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                                          • werewolf
                                            werewolf last edited by

                                            Lem729 -

                                            Again -

                                            I just want a bookmark panel that STAYS OPEN on the left side of my screen, like Opera 12 and previous had, and like Firefox still has.

                                            So that I can click on any one of my numerous bookmarks easily with one step.

                                            Is this option so difficult to achieve with Chrome type browsers? It was available for many years on just about all of the earlier browsers.

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