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    • maxzanna
      maxzanna last edited by

      I would like a master password in Opera browser, like Firefox.
      Is there an extension for it? Why developers don't implement such important feature like it?
      Bye at all.

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        Master password for Opera is your OS account password.

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        • maxzanna
          maxzanna last edited by

          My OS account? You mean Windows or Opera account? anyway this not the same thing, Opera fills stores passwords and does not require any action before, no matter if I am logged in my Opera account or not. Whoever opens Opera, in the same windows session, has access to all accounts. Firefox has got better point on it.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            My OS account? You mean Windows or Opera account?

            OS means Operating System, so the answer is Windows.

            Opera fills stores passwords and does not require any action before

            But people will not be able to see your password without your Windows password.

            Whoever opens Opera, in the same windows session, has access to all accounts

            Well, if someone manage to get access to your computer and also to your user, then your security and privacy is already compromised.

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            • maxzanna
              maxzanna last edited by

              I know what "SO" mean but my object was OPERA and I tried to make sense your answer. How I said, it was not the same thing. OS password could be not too strong but instead could be Browser Master Pw, moreover You could have to use single User Session (for many reason) in sharing position, so you can use Opera and other\s could be use Firefox or IE, also you don't take into consideration portable version.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                I know what "SO" mean but my object was OPERA and I tried to make sense your answer

                Opera uses the OS credentials to encrypt saved passwords, this is what i was trying to say.

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                • magogam
                  magogam last edited by

                  I agree with maxzanna.
                  For any reason, if someone access your computer, even if you are not logged in Opera, so it can access all your personal web content (email...bank account...opera accoount...). A master password, like in Opera 12, could be a good security tool.

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                  • declpi
                    declpi last edited by

                    Opera uses the OS credentials to encrypt saved passwords, this is what i was trying to say.

                    Does this mean that if I use Opera at my USB drive - as a portable browser - and someone finds this drive he can not see all my websites unlocked by cookies if he does not use the same OS-account as I used when I logged into that web pages?

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Does this mean that if I use Opera at my USB drive - as a portable browser - and someone finds this drive he can not see all my websites unlocked by cookies

                      It means that no one will be able to see your passwords without knowingknowing the OS password.
                      However, everyone will be able to use your Opera and see your browsing history, use your saved passwords and so on.

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                      • declpi
                        declpi last edited by

                        However, everyone will be able to use your Opera and see your browsing history, use your saved passwords and so on.

                        Isn't this an argument to reintroduce a master password setting possibility as Opera had years before?
                        I'm using Opera as my standard browser since 2004, nowadays I am using Opera mainly as a portable browser within the PortableApps platform and I worry someone finding it and using it in a malicious way. What can be done easily, as you confirmed. With a master password protection I would feel definitely safer!
                        I found one extension with this feature, but it still has some security gaps.
                        Please consider my arguments for introducing a master password setting in the default Opera release.
                        Thank you.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Let me correct a wrong information: your password couldn't be used because the file for stored passwords would not work in a different computer other than the one it was created.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Isn't this an argument to reintroduce a master password setting possibility as Opera had years before?

                            Why implement a master password or any other security measure for every single software on your computer when you can only crate an user and a password to access the computer/OS and protect all (or almost all) the info in the computer?

                            I am using Opera mainly as a portable browser within the PortableApps platform and I worry someone finding it and using it in a malicious way.

                            If any data in a pen-drive is so important that it should not be accessed by others, then it should be encrypted. And there are many ways to do it.

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                            • declpi
                              declpi last edited by

                              If any data in a pen-drive is so important that it should not be accessed by others, then it should be encrypted. And there are many ways to do it.

                              Right! Can you tell me one that does not need admit rights to be executed? TrueCrypt and VeraCrypt need admin rights on the OS-account. But some accounts where I use my pen-drive do not give me admin rights. How do you think can your suggestion be managed there in an easy and secure way?

                              Let me correct a wrong information: your password couldn't be used because the file for stored passwords would not work in a different computer other than the one it was created.

                              This is a really great feature! Much better then implementing a master password for each software! Why do you not apply this method to all other sensitive information stored in Opera? Such as settings, open tabs, bookmarks, history, ... And then create one container for each OS-account we use this edition of Opera on. Opera could then always use the right container for the OS-account we use it at the moment. 😉

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Can you tell me one that does not need admit rights to be executed?

                                Sorry, i don't use any so i can't recommend any. However i think it shouldn't depend on someone else's account to work.

                                Why do you not apply this method to all other sensitive information stored in Opera? Such as settings, open tabs, bookmarks, history, ..

                                Why such info should be considered sensitive?

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                                • blackbird71
                                  blackbird71 last edited by

                                  ...
                                  This is a really great feature! Much better then implementing a master password for each software! Why do you not apply this method to all other sensitive information stored in Opera? Such as settings, open tabs, bookmarks, history, ...

                                  Everything that's stored in encrypted form requires decryption before it can be used. It's one kind of system impact to do that for passwords at individual site log-ins, and another to do it constantly for each frequently-accessed browser file involving open tabs, bookmarks, and history which involve frequent read/writes. Moreover, the added complexity adds a lot more potential failure points when bad things happen to good files and processes.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    i have same problem.i cant save my some pasword in pc that i use in workplace.i wish opera add master pasword in future.

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                                    • declpi
                                      declpi last edited by

                                      @ blackbird71 (1)

                                      Everything that's stored in encrypted form requires decryption before it can be used. It's one kind of system impact to do that for passwords at individual site log-ins, and another to do it constantly for each frequently-accessed browser file involving open tabs, bookmarks, and history which involve frequent read/writes.

                                      On the fly encryption and decryption is nowadays no speed or resource problem. You can do this with huge drives and thousands of GB data reading and writing without loss of speed in comparison with non encrypted files.

                                      @ blackbird71 (2)

                                      Moreover, the added complexity adds a lot more potential failure points when bad things happen to good files and processes.

                                      Storing each Opera-OS-account in another folder does not add much complexity. The only challenge is to store each OS-account passwords, settings, bookmarks, open tabs and history in his own folder, as it is done now in only one folder. If this is the problem I wonder how you managed to get Opera to work at all.

                                      @ leocg (1)

                                      Sorry, i don't use any [encrypted pen-drive] so i can't recommend any. However i think it shouldn't depend on someone else's account to work.

                                      But it depends. It is impossible to mount a drive letter without admin rights on Windows by design. Unless you previously installed the appropriate TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt driver, which would require admin rights at that point. Your proposal is well-intentioned leocg, but unfortunately impracticable.

                                      @ leocg (2)

                                      Why such info [settings, open tabs, bookmarks, history, ...] should be considered sensitive?

                                      • settings I consider confidential because I don't want someone to see my Autofill settings, or a malicious person to modify my settings. Especially the SSL Zertificates.
                                      • open tabs, bookmarks and the history I consider confidential because I don't want my employer, my parents, my children, my wife, my friends or someone else see all the kind of sites I visited and at what time over the last years. They may draw the wrong conclusions about me from that.

                                      So why not apply your password method to this information as well and additionally create one container for each OS-account we use Opera on?

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        settings I consider confidential because I don't want someone to see my Autofill settings

                                        OK, for auto-fill i may agree because it may contain info like personal address, credit card numbers and so on.

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          I'm new to Opera (using 38.0.2220.41), having just changed from FireFox.

                                          The Opera Help site (http://help.opera.com/Windows/9.51/en/security.html) says that I can set a master password by going to Settings, Advanced, choosing Security and then Set Master Password.

                                          Just a few problems with those instructions. There is no Advanced. Security is in Basic (and Basic is all there is). And there is no Set Master Password.

                                          Is there a problem with my Opera installation? Or is the Help page incorrect? I want to set a master password, I don't want a debate about security or advice on what other people think I need.

                                          Can a master password be set in Opera 38.0.2220.41, and if so, how?

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            The Opera Help site

                                            Those are instructions for Opera 9.51 as the page address shows.

                                            Tip: To go to a software help page, you do it from inside the program by pressing F1 or using the menu.

                                            Can a master password be set in Opera 38.0.2220.41, and if so, how?

                                            No, you can't.

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