Opera comes with Flash pre-installed?

A Former User

Hi there everyone! Brevity is the soul of wit, so I'd like to ask if the Opera web browser comes with Flash pre-installed? For example, Google Chrome does, and this is extremely important for the Linux users who want to enjoy media requiring the latest version of Flash.

Adobe has earlier announced the following:

NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.

That's quite an old one, since the latest version seems to be 21.0.0.213. No wonder many media isn't working. Anyway, thanks for your answers in advance!

sgunhouse

sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer

No, Opera does not come with Flash. But it uses the same version Chrome does, which is available in many distros under the name pepperflash-nonfree.

A Former User

Thanks for your quick reply, sgunhouse! I am now trying to figure it out how to install pepperflash for Chromium (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS).

I found a couple of threads where I posted:

http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html

The instructions are there, but those didn't quite do the job .. yet. Thanks for your replies anyway!

sgunhouse

sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer

Have you enabled the nonfree repositories yet?

A Former User

I don't know, I've just followed all the instructions given at the articles blindly. What would that command line look like?

I'm sorry, I've been using Linux Ubuntu ever since Tuesday, so I am still quite a noob when it comes to these things. Thousand thanks for your help, sgunhouse!

gustavwiz

gustavwiz

First, open dash and search for Software & Updates. Then Check main, universe, restricted and multiverse (if they already aren't). Then, to to the "Other Software" tab, and check "Canonical Partners". Then click close, and reload (in the window that pops up).

When you've done this, open a terminal and run this command:

sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin

Then restart Opera.

sgunhouse

sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer

Wrong plugin, @gustavwiz.

gustavwiz

gustavwiz

@sgunhouse What's wrong with this one?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash

And if I remember it right some Opera employee recommended it.

sgunhouse

sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer

If you specify Adobe-flash then many sites will say it is outdated. Ubuntu does have pepperflash in their repositories, that will work better. And soon Chromium is dropping support for NPAPI plugins, which means it won't work at all.

A Former User

Hello sgunhouse.

This is the command I would use:

sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

It doesn't have a signature right now. Here's a little about this subject from Peppermint forum:

https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,3351.msg33265.html#msg33265

perknh

A Former User

Now who is right, avi or sgunhouse. Let's have a final definitive directive please.

This is what avi posted back in November 2015 .. in replying to a query from me.

"Does this mean that one has to run the update everytime there is an update to Opera ?

No. What happened here is that Opera blacklists versions of Flash that have a known security issue. So because Flash was already installed but not updated (because of the weird way pepperflashplugin-nonfree works), and Opera put the version that was installed on a blacklist because it had known security issues, Flash stopped working. After updating Flash it worked again (because now the installed version was not on the blacklist).

If you're on Ubuntu, use adobe-flashplugin from Canonical Partners instead, it gets updated regularly and doesn't require you to run any other commands."

gustavwiz

gustavwiz

I am pretty sure adobe-flashplugin is not NPAPI. Chrome dropped support for NPAPI-plugins in 2014.

A Former User

Hello my friends in Opera:

Okay, I just installed Flash, and as I said, there is no public key right now. Hopefully you read the link above from Peppermint that I posted a couple a days ago. This is frustrating a lot of people --myself included. You are not alone!

The installation of Pepperflash plugin takes about 2 minutes to complete --at least with my less expensive, low speed, high speed DSL connection:

This is the beginning of what my installation looks like:

perknh@xerus:~$ sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[sudo] password for perknh:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
ttf-dejavu ttf-xfree86-nonfree
The following NEW packages will be installed:
pepperflashplugin-nonfree
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.2 kB of archives.
After this operation, 42.0 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/multiverse amd64 pepperflashplugin-nonfree amd64 1.8.2ubuntu1 [11.2 kB]
Fetched 11.2 kB in 0s (50.7 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package pepperflashplugin-nonfree.
(Reading database ... 220098 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../pepperflashplugin-nonfree_1.8.2ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking pepperflashplugin-nonfree (1.8.2ubuntu1) ...
Setting up pepperflashplugin-nonfree (1.8.2ubuntu1) ...
WARNING: W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
1397BC53640DB551
--2016-05-02 17:58:22-- http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_50.0.2661.94-1_amd64.deb
Resolving dl.google.com (dl.google.com)... 173.194.204.136, 173.194.204.190, 173.194.204.91, ...
Connecting to dl.google.com (dl.google.com)|173.194.204.136|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 48371848 (46M) [application/x-debian-package]
Saving to: ‘/tmp/pepperflashplugin-nonfree.jEzCIyhKdp/google-chrome-stable_50.0.2661.94-1_amd64.deb’

This, believe it or not, is the Flash you want, and then, I strongly suggest, you install the free Flash blocker that Opera store offers. When you encounter a site that still uses Flash (such as CBS News --if you live in the States) you can decide whether or not to trust the site and activate, or not activate, Flash.

Since right now there are no signatures for Pepperflash, this is a backdoor way to see if you have the latest version installed -- you just run the installation command again:

perknh@xerus:~$ sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[sudo] password for perknh:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version (1.8.2ubuntu1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
perknh@xerus:~$

Here's some more information about Pepperflash:

https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer

I hope this information helps anyone here make a more informed decision concerning Flash. Flash really is a pain in the butt. Hopefully, in two years time, Flash will have gone the way of the dinosaurs and be extinct!

All the best,

perknh

A Former User

Hi there, perknh! Thanks for your throughout answer. I read the link you shared some days ago, and typed the "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree" command in the terminal. This is what it yields:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-fi libntdb1 python-ntdb
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

However, when I check the flash version from my Chromium, it still displays:

Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.2.999.999
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r999
Name: Shockwave Flash
Description: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r999
Version: 11.2.999.999
Location: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libpepflashplayer.so
Type: PPAPI (out-of-process)

I am sorry, I've been on Linux Ubuntu 14.04 LTS for more than one week now, and I feel completely helpless with the situation, even though I am willing to learn

Any ideas? perknh? sgunhouse?

sgunhouse

sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer

I dom't run Ubuntu, I can't comment on that dtuff. I just know that pepperflash is the one you neef. In Opera you can go tp opera:plugins to see which plugins it sees, but in the latest versions even if it sees the NPAPI plugin it won't actually use it. Not certain if that's only the unstable versions or the stable as well.

A Former User

Hello jayaguru-shishya,

As you probably know now the signatures are screwed up with Pepperflash plugin for the time being. And, as you probably read in Peppermint forum, they'll most likely NOT be updated until Chrome, or Chromium, has a new release.

Now here's what you would normally do to update Pepperflash:

sudo update-pepperflashplunin-nonfree --install

and to check its status you'd run this command:

sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status

But, unfortunately, now is not a normal time for this, so we're doing workarounds right now. And, on top of all this, I'm taking a look at Xubuntu 16.04 for a little while --although my home distribution is Peppermint 6, which is running off of Trusty Tahr 14.04, so I cannot see exactly what you are looking at, because I'm looking at a new release.

Now,jayaguru-shishya, how are you checking Pepperflash plugin? And, did you, by chance run two sets of commands --pepperflash and adobe plugin too? Let's see what's going on here.

Don't despair, jayaguru-shishya, we'll figure this out step by step. And, while we're figuring this out, as safe as Linux is, let's give you little peace of mind in the meantime. Go to Chromium's store (The Chrome Store, really) and add Flashcontrol extension. This will block Flash until you really want to use it. Also, in case you're very new at this, install Synaptic Package Manager too, if you haven't already done so. This is an easy way to see what you have installed. I suspect, you have installed two installations of Flash somehow, and you only need the one that Chromium and Chrome uses now.

So, in a nutshell:

How are you checking the status of Pepperflash? What does it say in Chromium when you run:

sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

?

Please copy and paste what it says for me.

This is what mine says:

perknh@xerus:~$ sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[sudo] password for perknh:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version (1.8.2ubuntu1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
perknh@xerus:~$

Let's see what happens when you run that command.

Answer this: Did you run two sets of commands --Pepperflash and Adobe Flash?
For your peace of mind, install Flashcontrol extension in Chromium.
Install, if you haven't already done so, Synaptic Package Manager --just in case we need it.
And, finally, don't worry!

jayaguru-shishya, we'll figure this one out step by step! And, in the meantime, I'll install Opera --which is my favorite browser of all!

Talk to you soon,

perknh

A Former User

sgunhouse, does that mean that the Opera browser can be updated to the most recent flash via pepperflash as well? Sorry, I've been staring at this table lately (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/), mentioning that only Chromium and Google Chrome can be updated to the latest Flash from the Linux camp.

So, I could install Opera on my Linux and update the flash by pepperflash? Also, I am interested in the Opera browser since they say that it comes with a free VPN these days, is that correct? ;-P

Thanks a lot for all your help !!!

A Former User

perknh, I've been trying to post a more extensive reply to you, addressing all your questions, but it seems that my post got under administrative review (I don't know why though), and hasn't passed that review yet

A Former User

That's okay, jayaguru-shishya, this is normal. Once Opera's staff sees that we're cooperating in good faith, they will let us proceed. This is an unusual topic because we doing workarounds for Pepperflash. Like I said, don't worry! But remember, I need you to copy and paste what your terminal says. And, if for some reason, you don't want to disclose your username, that's fine too. But please put xxxxxs where your username would be. I need to see the results of that command: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

Maybe somehow you've done two installations of Flash, and I assure you're wasting your time looking at Adobe.com. For Ubuntu and its derivatives, that's a dead duck. Look at this link again. This link applies to Opera as well as Chrome and Chromium even though it doesn't mention Opera by name:

https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer

Like sgunhouse has said, you need Pepperflash. I also suggest that you install Flashcontrol for Chromium browser and NoFlash for Opera browser. These extensions can only help you. Also one installation of Pepperflash will work for both Chromium and Opera.

You'll need to start a new topic if you want to discuss Opera's new VPN service, or you can check to see if one has already been started. As much as possible we try to keep our discussions to one topic per thread.

Of course, we all wander off topic a little at times!

It's 10:00 PM where I'm at, so I have hit the sack. But I'll check in with you tomorrow.

perknh

A Former User

Thanks for your reply, perknh! Yeah, that's pretty much what happened: I first ran the set of command for the adobe plugin. It was before I realized that it's a dead end since Adobe no longer supports the Linux version. After that, I found some instructions to install the pepperflash plugin, and I followed those (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html and http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html).

To answer your questions short and clear:

This is what I receive after typing in the command "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree", and entering the password:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-fi libntdb1 python-ntdb
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

I have also checked the status of the pepperflash by typing this command to the Chromium's address bar:

chrome://plugins

This is how it looks like according to Chromium: http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaupload/tmp/76094ffa5a9acb2c1f1f680f553ee09a66d9daf048b65eea91a87dc2/original.jpg

Yes, I did run the two sets of commands. I ran the adobe ones first. It was until I knew better.
In progress!
In progress!
Comprendo!

I was an Opera kid when I was still running Windows, and I'd like to return to Opera even now under Linux. Well, that's why I found my way here to the Opera forums

The biggest, warmest thanks to you, perknh!