Option to edit DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINES
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seaman123 last edited by
I hope Opera will add a feature to change the standard search engines. The only solution for me at the time is, rename the "default_partner_content.json" in the resources directory. But this is after every update necessary, so I hope there is coming an option to change the standard search engines.
I prefer DuckDuckGo but I can't change Google as standard (rename or delete "default_partner_content.json" doesn't help). That's really bad!
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meeotch666 last edited by
New opera user here. I'm really disappointed to find right away that I'm locked out from setting my own default search engine.
I understand the argument that there's some large fraction of the userbase that needs to be protected from themselves, and from internet malefactors. However, I reject the premise that this means removing basic functionality for "power users" is the only option. It's easy enough to include a hidden option that's editable only by a human being.
And the suggestion that google & yahoo are somehow "safer" than startpage and duckduckgo doesn't even merit a response. Particularly if, as one poster above suggested, the searches aren't even implemented securely.
For now, I'm using the disconnect search extension to force my default search to duckduckgo (though I'd prefer startpage). But I hope the developers choose to re-institute this choice for those who are responsible enough to make it.
That said, so far I'm loving Opera. And the checkbox that disables the tiny space above the tab line? Brilliant!
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lem729 last edited by
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I don't think you need to, though if they want to do it, it's okay. There's a safety issue, because Opera limited the Search engines to 5 to prevent malware from hijacking searches. I'd rather they stay with what they have, if there is any safety issue about adding more search engines.
Now I found an easy way to add search engines, that's as easy as typing in the main address bar. Remember, you can assign keyboard shortcuts to some of your extensions. Just go to your extensions -- ctrl shift E -- and at the bottom of your list, you will see Extension Keyboard Shortcuts. It's critical to have the extensions that will make this work for you, and set the shortcut.
So try some search extensions in Opera, and assign the keyboard shortcut. You might try the Opera extension, DuckDuckGo Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/duckduckgo-for-opera-2/?display=en. I went to at the end of my list of extensions Extension Keyboard Shortctus, and set ctrl D for this extension. Then from full-screen mode, I just typed ctrl D, and it is super. I get the search bar in full screen mode, can put in my search query, and then I arrive at the page I was looking for in full screen mode.
I sometimes use the Opera add-on, Disconnect Search Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/disconnect-search/?display=en, which lets you do searches of 5 browsers from the Opera main address bar if you choose. (Other extensions that access the web may work as well. Just as an aside, Disconnect Search has certain privacy benefits by generally moving your search query through the Disconnect website, so that it cannot (or so the claim is made) be traced to you. (If you research Disconnect Search in Google, you can find reviews of it). (They ask for a contribution when you download it, but as far as I know, you can get it working without contributing, and decide later if you want to or not).
Now just assign a keyboard shortcut to Disconnect Search. You can assign Ctrl D to it, unless you've already used that one for DuckDuckGo. If so, then alt D works. Then when you're in full screen mode, if you type your shortcut, ctrl D, you can do your searches in full screen mode.
Now, if you do a normal search from the Opera address bar, you generally, move your mouse cursor there, which takes time. If you have assigned the keyboard shortcut to the extension, let's ctrl D for DuckDuckGo, when you type the ctrl D (and your hands are already practically on those keys) (from the way you normally place your hands on the keyboard), and the search bar comes up "with the cursor already in the search box). That's very fast. I find it easier to do it that way, then moving to the main Opera Address Bar for the Opera Default searches.
Obviously, there are a lot of other search extensions that would work the same way.
In final, I don't think the benefit of Opera's adding search extensions (if they don't feel they are safe) is at all worth anything (or at least as safe as the five default search engines already provided), when it is so easy (as easy) to use the keyboard shortcut to open an extension search, with the cursor already in the search box.
And by the way Stealth789, you got very "relevant responses" in that other thread. You just chose not to be persuaded
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lem729 last edited by
You don't have to be in full-screen mode for the extension shortcut (to the search extension) to work. What makes it very easy is that when you type the shortcut, the cursor immediately shows up in the search box for the extension.
I find it quicker than moving the cursor to the opera address bar (the normal way to search), because then you have to place the cursor there.
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seaman123 last edited by
I don't think you need to, though if they want to do it, it's okay. There's a safety issue, because Opera limited the Search engines to 5 to prevent malware from hijacking searches.
It's just sarcastic and ironic, right? Because there is/are NO safety issue. That's a big usability issue!
Don't understand me wrong, I like the new Opera more than Chome/Chromium. And I think the new Opera is on the right way, but at the moment it's only my second browser. My first browser in mainly Firefox and somtimes the old Opera (12, with Presto engine).
I use the new Opera under ArchLinux.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
I don't think you need to, though if they want to do it, it's okay. There's a safety issue, because Opera limited the Search engines to 5 to prevent malware from hijacking searches.
It's just sarcastic and ironic, right? Because there is/are NO safety issue. That's a big usability issue!
Nope, i it's really blocked because of security, ro avoid the search engines being hijacked by b as bad third parties softwares.
When they find as secure way to allow changing default search engine, they will bring the option back.
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amr215 last edited by
Hello, I use google translate to French translate this page to English.
There is a very secure and good search engine : called QWANT. Unfortunately, this search engine is not in the list of those authorized by OPERA. This is very unfortunate and none of the arguments mentioned in these posts can explain this failure OPERA. I found the handling to put QWANT by default in the search bar OPERA ... http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-32575055-opera-qwant-par-defautp33002002
Unfortunately, this manipulation is to repeat every time one leaves OPERA. It's a shame because I like OPERA, but if it continued to refuse browser QWANT in its list of search engines, I would have to leave OPERA.En français :
Bonjour, j'utilise Google traduction pour traduire cette page du français à l'anglais.
Il y a un moteur de recherche très sécurisé et excellent qui s'appelle QWANT. Malheureusement, ce moteur de recherche n'est pas dans la liste de ceux autorisés par OPERA. C'est très dommage et aucun des arguments cités dans ces posts n'explique cette défaillance d'OPERA. J'ai trouvé la manipulation pour mettre QWANT par défaut dans la barre de recherche OPERA... http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-32575055-opera-qwant-par-defaut#p33002002
Malheureusement, cette manipulation est à refaire à chaque fois que l'on quitte OPERA. C'est vraiment dommage parce que j'aime bien OPERA, mais si ce navigateur continu de refuser QWANT dans sa liste des moteurs de recherche, je serais obligé de quitter OPERA. -
A Former User last edited by
Same probleme that amr215
I would use qwant for my default search engine but opera don't want to change.
Why we can't change default search engine ? Malware or adware ? The users who use opera is "poweruser". The other users use chrome or IE.
With google chrome, vivaldi, firefox, IE, EDGE we can change default search engine but not opera.
I hope this option will be back. Or allow more search engine per default.
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A Former User last edited by
The users who use opera is "poweruser". The other users use chrome or IE.
This is far from being true.
I exclude mobile plateform.
Opera is used by less of 5% users on global browser (on computer). In this 5%, 80% have a minimal knowledge in computer and info. It's same for vivaldi.
The majority of people who use opera (on computer) know how install software and uncheck adware when he install.
With chrome / firefox / IE / EDGE i can't same the same.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
I exclude mobile plateform.
I don't.
80% have a minimal knowledge in computer and info
Back in the beggining, maybe. But things have changed along the years so i'm not so sure about that being true nowadays.
imho all that "power user" thing belongs to the past.
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A Former User last edited by
It's very possible i'm wrong. I have say "power user" because I have bad English and I have forget how to say what I really think x)
For going back to the topic it's shame than we can't change our default search engine
Without this problem opera is Really good. And for me the better browser with Vivaldi (but Vivaldi have too much bug for daily use) -
aussiegaijin last edited by
How can Google search option be removed from the speed dial page? I would like to have DuckDuckGo
Also, how can Google and other search be removed for :Default Search Engine" settings?
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aussiegaijin last edited by
Can Google spy / track information using the "Google - search the web" used on the speed dial page?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Also, how can Google and other search be removed for :Default Search Engine" settings?
Nope.
Btw, this forum is for suggestion only and not for report issues and/or ask questions about Opera.
So please post your questions to the appropriate forum according t your OS.
