Help with some features
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A Former User last edited by
Hello, can you help me or give me advice how to add/change some features to new opera like:
- costomize buttons and all kind of GUI elements
- tab stacking
- button with closed tabs at minimize button (now that button show all opened tabs... I really dont get it why)
- close button at all tabs no matter how many tab you have openned
- google search bar next to adress bar is missing
- email client
- open new tabs always at the end of all tabs
- after closing tabs open last used tab
- how to disable search bar at speed dial
- how to disable "+" button at speed dail
- how to disable gray lower strip at speed dial
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lando242 last edited by
costomize buttons and all kind of GUI elements
tab stacking
Not part of the current version of Opera. Bare in mind that Opera 12 and the new Opera are completely different programs and represent different design philosophies. Some features in 12 aren't in the current Opera, or are very different, and some will never return.
button with closed tabs at minimize button (now that button show all opened tabs... I really dont get it why)
There is no button to show closed tabs in Opera at the moment. The button you are talking about is new and it only shows current open tabs. Its for people, like me, that have a ton of tabs open at one time. Ctrl+Shift+T can be used to open closed tabs though. There is also a 'Recent tabs' section in the Opera menu.
close button at all tabs no matter how many tab you have openned
You mean the X in the upper right of the screen? I don't understand, what is the question?
google search bar next to adress bar is missing
You can search in the address bar now. You can also preface your search with a letter to choose the search engine you want to use.
email client
They removed it. Its not coming back. Its now a separate program called Opera Mail.
open new tabs always at the end of all tabs
after closing tabs open last used tab
I recommend the extension 'Classic Tabs': https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/classic-tabs/
how to disable search bar at speed dial
how to disable "+" button at speed dail
how to disable gray lower strip at speed dial
I don't know.
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A Former User last edited by
It dont helped me at all (expect tabs order extension) and new Opera is worse then lots of people say. Its just another stupid chrome like without lots of good features that old Opera had. Whats the point of this new... Chrome copy with "O" brand?
I know about Ctrl+Shift+T but it reopens only last closed tab but if you want to reopen tab closed 10 tabs away its not useful.
Email client itself is useless. It was good to have it like tab but itself its just dumb email and theres lots of better standalone clients.
I know you can search with adress bar... lots of browsers can do that but separate search is much better and intuitive. One for adress one for search.
About that close button yeah I mean "X" button. How to force this button to stay at all tabs at all time no matter what.BTW new design philosophies? It have same graphical design like old Opera but without tons of features like I see. whats the new philosophie?
Anyway I have another questions:
- how to remove downloads or/and synchronizations button?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
how to disable search bar at speed dial
Go to settings, take the focus away from the search field, type the konami code to enable the power user settings, check "Hide the search box in Speed Dial"
how to disable "+" button at speed dail
how to disable gray lower strip at speed dialNot possible
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lando242 last edited by
I know about Ctrl+Shift+T but it reopens only last closed tab but if you want to reopen tab closed 10 tabs away its not useful.
As I said in my post "There is also a 'Recent tabs' section in the Opera menu."
It was good to have it like tab but itself its just dumb email and theres lots of better standalone clients.
So use one of them.
I know you can search with adress bar... lots of browsers can do that but separate search is much better and intuitive. One for adress one for search.
Sounds kind of backward to me. Like having a media player with a play button and a pause button, but that each work as play and pause. Just have 1 button that does both instead of 2 buttons that do the same thing.
About that close button yeah I mean "X" button. How to force this button to stay at all tabs at all time no matter what.
Isn't it always there? Maybe a changed a setting back when I first got Opera and I can't find it now but its always there for me.
BTW new design philosophies? It have same graphical design like old Opera but without tons of features like I see. whats the new philosophie?
Its a streamlined browser that uses extensions for functionality instead of building everything in. If you want a continuation of the old Opera philosophy, which failed to get it above a 5% market share for 20 years, look into Vivaldi.
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A Former User last edited by
Sounds kind of backward to me. Like having a media player with a play button and a pause button, but that each work as play and pause. Just have 1 button that does both instead of 2 buttons that do the same thing.
Its better to have separate search bar. Its not about being "backward" or not "modern" or whatever you think. It have some advatages that adress bar alone dont have. If you want to search some words like google or youtube its not possible without place "g " before that word. Otherwise it will autofill some suggested website and you will go to that site instead of search. So your analogy about Play/Pause button is not the same because having same button fot both dont bring any disadvantage for users.
So if old Opera didnt have more than 5% of market how is the new Opera now? Does it have at least 5% or its worse then the old one?
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A Former User last edited by
The download button will be gone when you empty the list of downloaded files.
To remove the sync button you need to disable sync.Its not good solutuon I mean how to remove it permanetly. I dont want to stop using sync I just want to remove that button cause it have no use there. Please dont post half working solutions or solution to another issue.
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lando242 last edited by
If you want to search some words like google or youtube its not possible without place "g " before that word
Incorrect. If you just type somethign in the address bad it will use your default search engine to look for it. In this case it would probably be google but it could also be yahoo or duckduckgo or whatever. So, yeah, my analogy about Play/Pause button still stands.
So if old Opera didnt have more than 5% of market how is the new Opera now? Does it have at least 5% or its worse then the old one?
Its been going up for the past year or so. The old Opera peaked at about 5% but that was like a decade ago. Its been around 2% on the desktop for the last 5 years or so. It bottomed out around 1.5% and its about 2.8% now.
Please dont post half working solutions or solution to another issue.
Well then the answer is no solution. The new Opera is not the old Opera. They are making progress but Opera 12 had 18 years to get where it was. The new Opera has had 2 years. So it many cases there are going to be things that simply don't work the way you want them to. You don't need to get snappy at us about that. Not like we have any control over it. There are no devs here.
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A Former User last edited by
Incorrect. If you just type somethign in the address bad it will use your default search engine to look for it. In this case it would probably be google but it could also be yahoo or duckduckgo or whatever. So, yeah, my analogy about Play/Pause button still stands.
Ok Ill give you some example:
- visit www.google.com
- then try to search word "google" in adress bar
as you can see with site suggestion you just cant search that word without some extra letters like "g " and thats the point. Some sites have names that you can want to search in future... do you see that now?
Its been going up for the past year or so. The old Opera peaked at about 5% but that was like a decade ago. Its been around 2% on the desktop for the last 5 years or so. It bottomed out around 1.5% and its about 2.8% now.
So how much have new Opera now? If its so great it should have at least as much as the old one or even more cause the old was was bad compared to new one... or didnt it?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The download button will be gone when you empty the list of downloaded files. To remove the sync button you need to disable sync.Its not good solutuon I mean how to remove it permanetly. I dont want to stop using sync I just want to remove that button cause it have no use there. Please dont post half working solutions or solution to another issue.
I gave you the solutions. The only way to get rid of those buttons is by doing what i said.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Ok Ill give you some example:
- visit www.google.com
- then try to search word "google" in adress bar
as you can see with site suggestion you just cant search that word without some extra letters like "g " and thats the point. Some sites have names that you can want to search in future... do you see that now?
If i type google in the address bar, it appears as a search suggestion like anything i type in the address bar.
So how much have new Opera now? If its so great it should have at least as much as the old one or even more cause the old was was bad compared to new one... or didnt it?
You mean how many people is using Opera? If so, it's something like 52M+
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A Former User last edited by
If i type google in the address bar, it appears as a search suggestion like anything i type in the address bar.
http://postimg.org/image/44th5m55f/
You mean how many people is using Opera? If so, it's something like 52M+
I mean how many percent have new opera.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
If i type google in the address bar, it appears as a search suggestion like anything i type in the address bar.
http://postimg.org/image/44th5m55f/You typed "goo"and this is what is being shown as a search suggestion.
I mean how many percent have new opera.
Basically the same, i guess.
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A Former User last edited by
You typed "goo"and this is what is being shown as a search suggestion.
And thats the point. If you have search and adress bar combinated in one, browser dont know if you want to get suggested site or you just want to search that word. Can you finaly see the difference?
Most of the URLs are short so theres no reason to have that long adress bar. If you have very long URL then even very long adress bar is not enough anyway. So why there is no otion to turn search bar on.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
And thats the point. If you have search and adress bar combinated in one, browser dont know if you want to get suggested site or you just want to search that word. Can you finaly see the difference?
And what is the problem? Opera will always (try to) autocomplete the address but you can hit the delete key to remove the autocompleted part or use the drop-down list to search a word.
