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    YouTube rolled out 60 FPS videos, Opera cannot play them, even in 30 FPS

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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      Opera 25.0, Windows 8.1

      YouTube just now rolled out the possibility to upload 60 FPS videos. Chrome, IE and Safari play them without problems, but Opera will not. Those videos that have 60 FPS on 720p/1080p will not even play in 30 FPS, it just says there was an error. Can we get an update to fix this? I will seriously drop Opera over this.

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      • sfaugue
        sfaugue last edited by

        I would want to know when 60 fps YouTube support will be implemented as well. It's kind of annoying to have to switch between IE 11 and Opera just to watch YouTube videos at 60 fps...

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          I tested here with this link and the result was: a lot of lagging while using 60 FPS and Flash Player does not have support for it (Adobe Problem).

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          • twm-ee
            twm-ee last edited by

            Is the playback broken with both flash and html5 player, and is there no difference with stable/beta/dev release?

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Any example links?

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              • twm-ee
                twm-ee last edited by

                For testing: Avatar 60 FPS

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Plays fine in 12.17. Sure they will fix soon in newer versions

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                  • falloutboy09
                    falloutboy09 last edited by

                    Funny,
                    I was able to enjoy the Titanfall video in 60fps and 1080p with no issues with the 24 Version of Opera.
                    Since then I have not updated my flash player or anything else.

                    But it is rather strange that some other videos are not loading at all
                    http://youtu.be/Wy2H1yxvO7Y

                    Bohemian Eagle 60FPS Hi-Res Test, with some troublesome encoding for everything except Chrome and Safari apparently.

                    May it have anything to-do with the HTML5 Version of YouTube enabled?

                    Opera Version: 25.0.1614.50
                    on Windows 7 64-bit

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      For testing: Avatar 60 FPS

                      Couldn't load the video using the flash player. I've tried with the html5 one an it didn'tallow me to change to 720 or 1080 with 60fps, only regular 720p and 360p were available.

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        Try the link I have posted here.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Try the link I have posted here.

                          That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            Try the link I have posted here.

                            That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.

                            If I open that link, both HTML5 player and flash player have the 60fps option which is 720p or 1080p.

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                            • falloutboy09
                              falloutboy09 last edited by

                              Have to join here again.
                              Something changed since yesterday. As I can watch all of the aforementioned videos. BUT if I look at the "stats for nerds" - all of these videos scrape at the 30fps mark.
                              No mention of being displayed in 60fps or anyhting else.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
                                  Try the link I have posted here.
                                    
                                
                                That one plays fine here but it uses a different codec.
                                

                                If I open that link, both HTML5 player and flash player have the 60fps option which is 720p or 1080p.

                                Yes, because it use a different codec as i said.

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                                • slin3
                                  slin3 last edited by

                                  Some videos on YouTube do work in 108060fps with Opera but apparently only those which are available as webm/vp9. Those who use h.264 are only available in 360p30fps and 720p30fps. If you go to this site: https://www.youtube.com/html5 you will see that h.264 DOES work in HTML5 via the system libraries but it does NOT work with Media Source Extensions which seem to be a requirement for YouTube's DASH player and apparently 1080p and 60fps.
                                  I don't know if this is possible (due to licensing problems) but I hope the Opera team is working on MSE support with h.264 because this is something that could seriously make me switch my browser for the first time in ages. As it stands I see no other way to watch YouTube in 1080p than to use a different browser, use Flash or wait for YouTube to process the video to vp9 which might take ages. 60fps only works if I wait for vp9 too or by using a different browser. It would be nice for the Opera team to make some statement about this because if they don't or can't do anything about it I might as well switch to Chrome now.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    hah, now I see...
                                    I can watch Avatar video in 60 fps, but video I uploaded (720p@60fps) is in H264/mkv, and is played 30 fps (or even less). html5 player

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                                    • ruario
                                      ruario last edited by

                                      @slin3 Sums up the situation nicely. Firstly, this has nothing to do with Flash. The problem is only with 60 FPS HTML5 videos encoded with H.264, since MSE is used and Opera for Windows and Mac do not currently support MSE in combination with H.264 videos.

                                      It is worth noting that many popular videos are later transcoded to WebM/VP9, which do work in Opera, even at 60 FPS. This is why people are getting mixed results. If someone links a video and says it doesn't work, some time later another Opera user may come back and find it does work as a WebM version is then available.

                                      P.S. As a side note, Opera Linux users with a system-provided FFmpeg with H.264 support compiled in will see all videos. The reason for this is that on all three platforms we use the OS to decode H.264.

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                                      • falloutboy09
                                        falloutboy09 last edited by

                                        quote of ruario

                                        P.S. As a side note, Opera Linux users with a system-provided FFmpeg with H.264 support compiled in will see all videos. The reason for this is that on all three platforms we use the OS to decode H.264.

                                        So I get this right, that we normally would be able to few all kinds of 60fps videos as long as we could view them by other video tools as the OS is used to decode the codec.
                                        BUT we can not view H.264 in combination with MSE (which is city code on license plates here) as Opera does not support the MSE part.

                                        May someone tell me what MSE stands for in this case?
                                        And Opera is about to encorporate this MSE & H.264 'thingy', in the next couple big updates?

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                                        • linuxmint7
                                          linuxmint7 last edited by

                                          MSE = MicroSoft Encoder, if I'm not mistaken.

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                                          • christoph142
                                            christoph142 last edited by

                                            Actually, it's Media Source Extension... :doh: ^^

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